Big Draw In Multi Way Pot; Overplayed?

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Did i do everything right on this hand, i said to myself on the flop that i am happy to play for stacks against either of them, was this right?

Any other advice about the hand, or about how to play multi drawing hands like this?

The guy who donk bet 14/11/6

The one who re-raised all in is 44/3/0.6

Can i just make sure that when people talk about player stats it is VPIP, PFR and TAF in that order, correct?

Thanks

party poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($120.10)
BB ($124.50)
UTG ($116)
Hero ($171.83)
CO ($73.41)
Button ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q
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, A
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1 fold, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($10) 3
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(3 players)
SB bets $7, Hero raises to $37, CO calls $73.41 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $33.41.

Turn: ($160.82) 6
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($160.82) 5
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $160.82

Results in white below:
Hero has Qh Ah (one pair, fives).
CO has 6c 7c (straight, seven high).
Outcome: CO wins $157.82.
 
shinedown.45

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why would you call the all-in when the villians aggression was .6?
With that low of an aggression factor, his/her all-in should have set off some alarms.
If a player shows very little aggression and all of a sudden pushes all-in, it's time to get out of dodge.
It would have been a correct call if the player had been LAG throughout, but this player seems to have been playing loose/passive and when a loose/passive player pushes, they usually have the nuts.
bad call on your part, live and learn.
That's my opinion though and there are others who will make it more clear why this was a bad call on your part.
 
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why would you call the all-in when the villians aggression was .6?

because we are getting like 4:1 on our call, easily got the odds to call to hit our flush even if villain has the nuts

fwiw, i raise less on the flop, say to ~$20, then probably fold to a shove after doing a quick odds check since i don't think a call would be profitable following a $20 raise.

After your flop raise, the call is standard

also, you got the stats in the correct order :)
 
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yea folding after u raise so large would be absolutely terrible. I think at 6max this is a standard flop for us to get all in no matter what against any villain with 2 overs, gutshot, and FD.
 
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Your flop raise is a little big, but this looks fine to me anyways.
 
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i personally dont like to be aggr with the nuts draw... call or even maybe a smaller raise then atleast you can get away from it if villian pushes everything in. but i dont think he would have pushed all his chips in unless you made that big raise.... IMO
 
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Since the cutoff has station-like stats, any merit to flat calling to try and keep him in? He usually won't be shoving in this case.
 
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at least you can get away from it if villian pushes everything in
Wtf are you smoking. Yeah, we should totally fold every time we have at least 35% equity in the pot, and getting odds to call....:rolleyes:
 
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Wtf are you smoking. Yeah, we should totally fold every time we have at least 35% equity in the pot, and getting odds to call....:rolleyes:

Im saying if we call the $7 on the flop (instead of raising huge) and then villian raises all in for $73 total.... which puts $97 into the pot and $66 to call. 2.5:1 odds... NOW its an easy fold.

Get what im saying.... ?????
 
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No reason to be a DICK about it either... IMO
 
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Get what im saying.... ?????
No, I really don't. Because even if villain has a set, we still have enough equity in the pot to call. *We can't fold profitably here unless villain's range is only 6h7h*
 
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i give up then... i cant put it any more simple.

one thing i will say...
44 VPIP = Plays nearly any 2 cards
0.6 TAF = Plays only VERY solid hands Post Flop

We are drawing to a flush and only a flush when we see him go all-in.
 
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because we are getting like 4:1 on our call, easily got the odds to call to hit our flush even if villain has the nuts

fwiw, i raise less on the flop, say to ~$20, then probably fold to a shove after doing a quick odds check since i don't think a call would be profitable following a $20 raise.

After your flop raise, the call is standard

also, you got the stats in the correct order :)
Your right, typed response while playing, so the odds did give OP the right to call.
 
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No, I really don't. Because even if villain has a set, we still have enough equity in the pot to call. *We can't fold profitably here unless villain's range is only 6h7h*

If we triple the flop bet, its break even to call or fold vs an allin set. Pitter is talking about making a small raise or even calling, in which case your statement is false (but push is less likely after call). I would love to play the nutflush draw 3way but even a small raise brings a reraise which pushes the first player out. Is there any merit to flatcalling as C9 originally asked or we don't get 3way action often enough and we should just try to take it down now w/ outs?
 
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