This is a discussion on Bad NL hold'em hand within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; I decided to play a little NL hold'em today, and besides this hand I felt I played almost perfect. So please tell me about the
I decided to play a little NL hold'em today, and besides this hand I felt I played almost perfect. So please tell me about the many mistakes I made.
No particular reads on any players, exept paco's starting hand range is VERY big.
Game #2247108384: Hold'em NL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2006/05/03 - 18:21:36 (ET)
Table "Pluto" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: baltazar ($48.85 in chips)
Seat 2: OverSole ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 3: sue21 ($4.85 in chips)
Seat 4: aheim ($21.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Slpseed ($17.62 in chips)
Seat 6: Chelse006 ($10.85 in chips)
Seat 7: the loot ($72.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Osmann ($19.20 in chips)
Seat 9: KestoSeko ($27.40 in chips)
Seat 10: Paco ($51.86 in chips)
the loot: posts small blind $0.15
Osmann: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Osmann 10♦Q♠
Paco: calls $0.25
Slpseed: calls $0.25
Chelse006: calls $0.25
the loot: folds
----- FLOP ----- 9♦ 8♣ 6♣
Osmann: bets $1
Paco: calls $1
Slpseed: calls $1
Chelse006: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [9d 8c 6c]Q♣
Paco: bets $1.50
Chelse006: calls $1.50
Osmann: calls $1.50
----- RIVER ----- [9d 8c 6c Qc]8♥
Paco: bets $2.50
Chelse006: calls $2.50
Osmann: calls $2.50
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Paco: shows [Jc 2c] (A Flush, Queen high)
Chelse006: mucks hand [Kc 6d]
Osmann: mucks hand [Td Qs]
Paco collects $16.30 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $17.15 Main pot $16.30 Rake $0.85
Board [9d 8c 6c Qc 8h]
Seat 1: baltazar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: OverSole folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sue21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: aheim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Slpseed folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Chelse006 (button) mucked [Kc 6d]
Seat 7: the loot (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Osmann (big blind) mucked [Td Qs]
Seat 9: KestoSeko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Paco showed [Jc 2c] and won ($16.30) with A Flush, Queen high
preflop was fine, but i don't get the flop bet
betting a gutshot?
i check here and see what happens, and fold if someone bets more than is worth calling.
Putting that aside, calling turn + river isn't a bad play with top pair
4th May 2006, 12:11 AM
Poker at: Interpoker
Game: Omaha, Stud
I've got a double gutshot straightdraw with 2 overcards, so I wouldn't consider it a bluff. But you might still be right about the check/fold.
oh yeah, double belly buster...didn't notice that.
Makes the bet more understandable but you still only have 6 pure outs.
Qs could make JT the straight, and 10 would make a straight for anyone with a 7.
Also the flush possibility is a downer for your draw, and unluckily villain hit it.
I think i agree with your play, actually Os. I might lead that out too, but in EP i might check
i could go either way
4th May 2006, 8:25 AM
Poker at: Merge, Bodog
Game: Yes, I am
re: Poker & Bad NL hold'em hand
I'll keep mine simple:
Raise PF to $1 to cleanse the limpers while you have position (.75 never seems to be enough), but checking was OK.
Now you are out of position, so check the double-gutter on the flop. Call a small bet but fold a large one.
Big fold on the turn with the flush on board that could counterfeit your top pair, but if not...
Bigger fold on the river with a flushed & paired board.
4th May 2006, 10:16 PM
The Shakuni 
The river is an easy fold in my opinion, I mean trip 8's is a HUGE possibility as many many people chase their middle pair for trips or 2 pair, so you have to assume that someone had it. Also, with 3 clubs, you have to realize the possiblity of a flush draw.