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OGslikrick

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Bovada (6max) .05/.10 NLH
In a previous hand the villain checked the nuts to me on the river.

I want to know when and what I should have bet to help put villains on ranges?

SB $14.81
Hero BB $5.42 5c8s
UTG $ 9.85
CO $9.94
BTN $10.85

fold,fold,BTN call, SB call, HeroBB check

Flop 7h 6c 9h
SB check, Hero check, BTN bet $0.30,
SB raises $1.20 , Hero calls, BTN calls

Turn 7d
SB check, Hero bet $0.50, BTN call, SB call

River Jc
SB bet $3.04, Hero ???
 
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That's a pretty awful bet, yes. With about 3.75 in the pot, you need to be betting about 2.00, minimum. You should have bet just under half of your stack and been ready to gii. Also, with a short stack, you should've 3-bet the flop all-in.
 
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agreed...small bet size makes u look weak. make em pay to see turn..river
 
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Seems like a standard all-in on the flop here. They're at ... what? 36% on the flop with a flush draw to your made hand? And a raise and a re-raise in front of you probably shades both folding.

That turn sucks to see with the flopped straight.
 
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Seems like a standard all-in on the flop here. QUOTE]

Standard all-in on the flop? I'm not so sure about that. But I am re-raising close to what BenjiHustle suggests. Make the BTN worry about the SB putting him all in--he has him covered.|

And yes, I plan on shipping it in there on the turn!
 
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It seems you are lost.So ,maybe fold is right.But ,I often call in this situation.
 
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Standard all-in on the flop? I'm not so sure about that. But I am re-raising close to what BenjiHustle suggests. Make the BTN worry about the SB putting him all in--he has him covered.

And yes, I plan on shipping it in there on the turn!

Fair enough, if that's your strategy. Can you explain why?

I don't play much NLHE anymore so you could definitely be right, but a flopped 5-9 straight with medium stack seems pretty strong to me on the flop. Only an 8-10 is ahead and everyone else is drawing to beat you at a losing percentage, so I'd be looking to take it down there rather than let them draw it out.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I should have just shoved on the flop. I tanked then called and the villain had 6s7s
 
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Maybe you shall just raise the flop here. As there are too many draws, you can definitely get enough value from them, not to say those 2pairs and sets. In a 3 way pot, mining under such a wet flop is quite dangerous.
 
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Fair enough, if that's your strategy. Can you explain why?

I don't play much NLHE anymore so you could definitely be right, but a flopped 5-9 straight with medium stack seems pretty strong to me on the flop. Only an 8-10 is ahead and everyone else is drawing to beat you at a losing percentage, so I'd be looking to take it down there rather than let them draw it out.

There are times that I'd get it in there right away. But, I feel that you can put more pressure on that BTN that way without getting it all in. Ideally you want to be Heads up and not trying to beat them both at show down. If the button does fold and the SB calls there is about $4.60 in the pot and you have $3.32 behind which leaves you with a nice sized bet on the turn. If the BTN shoves and the SB calls you can still fold and still have $3.32 behind. I just never think you are going to take it down many times with the shove when there has been a bet and a raise before you.

He may view your smaller raise as strength and a shove as weak. There are a lot more things I believe that he has to think about. Granted he still has to worry about the SB if you shove.



If you shove and the BTN calls, I don't see the SB going anywhere.

The problem I see with the flat call of the re-raise is that the BTN now also has the option to flat and get to the turn easily with a semi-bluff. If the raise happens, he does have to put the SB re-shoving into his decision.

But, ultimately you need more information about the players than what was given to really determine what flop action is really ideal.

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