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pokerstars GAME #11065494611: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/07/21 - 23:21:59 (ET)
Table 'Delia' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Squireod ($33.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Motiv8tor ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 3: easy27 ($22.30 in chips)
Seat 4: TgGolf ($25.40 in chips)
Seat 5: bw07507 ($32.60 in chips)
Seat 6: 2evol2 ($15.65 in chips)
Seat 7: TheZ750Guy ($15.35 in chips)
Seat 8: glass26 ($12.70 in chips)
Seat 9: BlueDevil93 ($14.80 in chips)
bw07507: posts small blind $0.10
2evol2: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bw07507 [Kd Ad]
TheZ750Guy: folds
glass26: folds
BlueDevil93: folds
Squireod: calls $0.25
Motiv8tor: calls $0.25
easy27: calls $0.25
TgGolf: calls $0.25
bw07507: raises $1.75 to $2
2evol2: folds
Squireod: folds
Motiv8tor: calls $1.75
easy27: calls $1.75
TgGolf: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 3c Tc]
bw07507:?

Do you toss a C-bet out here out of position against 2 opponents?
 
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It's a good board for a continuation bet. But I think it depends on how the other two in the pot have been playing. If they have been calling a lot of flop bets, I would be less inclined to bet here--instead check and hope for a free card. If they have been fairly tight I would probably through a 3/4 to pot sized bet out there and see if they have interest in the pot.

Thoughts?

Two tells
 
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What hands do you put your opponents on?

To me, that board doesnt look like it helped anyone, but theres a flush and straight draw showing. I'd bet out about half pot to test. Hopefully you can get your opponents to fold and you take it down. Against 2 players, there is a good chance that board missed them completely. There is a chance of you hitting the A or K on the turn to possibly take the lead if they call. If they do call, then it'll depend on how your opponents play and what you put them on. You might want to slow it down and try and see a cheap river or you might want to fire off another bet on the turn.

My advice: C-bet because: You probably have the best hand, the board is pretty dry, and you're giving yourself 2 chances to win the pot. A) opponents fold, or opponents just call and you catch on the turn.
 
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You did make it 8BB to go. I would C-bet this flop and see how the opponent reacts. My guess is that if they had an overpair they would try to protect it against the flush draw and would raise you. You can then fold to the reraise.
If they flat call, I would consider throwing another bet on the turn if it doesn't complete the flush or if an A or K falls.
 
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without a doubt a continuation bet is warranted here. if someone comes over the top you gain information. If everyone folds you win the pot. Easy right! We all wish it were that easy, but is what must be done, or else why do we play?
 
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You need to make a continuation bet. You probably still have the best hand right now. Bet at least $2. Anything less will be a sign of weakness.
 
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if i'm on the button or last to act facing what i think is a continuation bet, once in a while i will re-raise no matter what hand i have as long as i have a good read that raiser is betting with ace high or worse. more often than not they will fold, when they dont you get a chance to hit on the turn. shouldnt be done too often, or they will catch on, but it can help you steal some pots (helps if the pot is small and they are average stacked, they care less about having their raise stolen, short stacks may push all in while big stacks have the money to call/gamble).
 
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guess I will just post what everyone else has,


C-bet its a dry flop.
 
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You indicated strength with your preflop bet so you definitely have to c-bet here.
Your not thinking about checking this are you? Do you want to let your opponents know you missed the flop?
When faced with this situation, a c-bet will most likely take the pot the majority of the time.
 
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if i'm on the button or last to act facing what i think is a continuation bet, once in a while i will re-raise no matter what hand i have as long as i have a good read that raiser is betting with ace high or worse. more often than not they will fold, when they dont you get a chance to hit on the turn. shouldnt be done too often, or they will catch on, but it can help you steal some pots (helps if the pot is small and they are average stacked, they care less about having their raise stolen, short stacks may push all in while big stacks have the money to call/gamble).

?? Nice thought, but he's not in position.

I'm assuming that you're looking at the hand from opponent's view, and commenting on possible thinking of someone if bw does c-bet? Or, just putting out some general information about c-bet situations?



As to bw's question, yeah, c-bet. You've shown real strength preflop (probably as much to get the limpers to fold as much as anything), so continue to show strength.


If someone calls and you miss the turn, it gets interesting. Do you have a plan?
 
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