AKs in SB, straddle pot

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I'm wondering how others would play this hand given this situation and table dynamics.

1/2 live Pretty loose and passive. 1 plyr is laggy (bad at it), 2 are tag (one is me) 1 is tight passive(direct left) and the rest (5) are loose passive unless they have the best hand. With 1 of those an absolute calling station.

Button (direct right) puts on $6 straddle.

It's limped 4 ways to me. I have AKs clubs. Most of the time, I would raise this to $25 (with straddle on), but I felt more than one of the limpers would call and I didn't want to bloat the pot preflop so I limped with the BB and button to act. BB completes (tight passive) and Button raises to $31.( 3rd hand played, no reads old man river type).

Since I'm the next to act, I decided I wanted to take this guy heads up.

I should say first that the effective stack was about $140. ( I had about $220)

Question. What do you raise to? I'll put out the rest of the hand after some replies. Thank you.
 
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No opinions? Am I missing something here?
 
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Mississippi straddle or button straddling gives the button the last action preflop so the raise to $31 is the option. If you want isolate button I would raise at least 3x so make it $106ish. However, I would suggest just shoving for your $206 instead of betting half your stack if your intent on raising
I myself would just call and see the flop.
 
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How can it be limped 4 ways to you when the Button straddles? If the Button straddles you are first to act in the SB and there shouldn't be any limpers.

Even if you were to play the hand out without a straddle, the Button would still have to act before you.

The hand kind of contradicts itself, who exactly is acting first in this hand?
 
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when there is a button straddle, the action goes like this.... UTG acts first (like always) it continues all the way around to the CO, then action SKIPS the button and goes to the SB and BB then goes back to the button. I guess not a lot of places have this.
 
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Yes, thats how it goes where I have played it. goes as always skips button then back to button last. I know they do it that way at the RIO home of the wsop.
 
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I'd probably raise the first time around. I'd probably make it $45-$50. If a lot of people call, cool. I'm making a lot more money that way. Given that you limp, I'd probably call and let dominated hands come in. By limping and then raising your hand looks super strong so I probably wouldn't do that. If I had to though, then I'd raise about $80. You can still apply the same pressure as a bigger raise since he won't have too much room to maneuver postflop. He won't be able to make many plays against you. He'll have to win 40% of the time in order to call which will still make it very difficult for him with a hand like 99 or JJ given how strong your line looks. Dominated hands like AQish hands are more likely to play now.

Shoving there might be better though depending on your opponents' tendencies.
 
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Simply 3bet shove here ... no need to isolate and play post flop when the pot is already juicy and by shoving you have the chance to take it down right then and there. Straddler's range can be usually wide so just give him a chance to fold, and let him ponder over himself about his little adventurous raise from the straddle. :boxing:
 
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when there is a button straddle, the action goes like this.... UTG acts first (like always) it continues all the way around to the CO, then action SKIPS the button and goes to the SB and BB then goes back to the button. I guess not a lot of places have this.

I have never played online where a straddle option is available, but I will say when I play live at a Casino in Tunica, the "Mississippi Straddle" works the same way TheGodson described it:

Straddle on the button is followed by the SB then the BB, THEN UTG and so on.

http://pokerterms.com/mississippi-straddle.html
 
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this is a little different. Blame it on Iowa I guess.
 
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