Had AA and ran into set. shorthanded. Go broke or not?

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Swedish currency, "20NL".

Guys, please help me here. I was on a winning session when i suddenly got AA. This player had just joined so i had no stats at all. 4hands had he played so far..
Maybe i shall raise bigger with my AA? But you want people in the pot after all. Do it more expensive for him to setmine? But then he maybe folds and the setminer misses most of the time.

When the board comes with paint am i inclined to want it in here and now on the flop.
He calls, common at those limits when you hit a set, always checkraise.. never valuebet always checkraise..So maybe i should fold when i saw that, but it is AA after all and 5handed. People here often gets it in with highest pair, AJ very possible, and only a set can beat me here, J8? calling 3BB with J8, it's possible. Flushdraw played aggressively? People here often play highest pair so AJ, KJ is very possible.

So when he directly reraised after he first had checked maybe i should get a little suspicious. It's so common with many players on those limits.

Do you go broke here or do you fold to a unknown? He left just after the hand, typical bingoplayer.

Broke or not broke?

Could've had 2 pair or flush draw or a set on this board , you're losing to more then just a set on the flop.
Hard call, maybe a disciplined fold. Sets are incredibly easy to disguise thats why people love them so much.

I'd have probably folded.

lukeellul92 said:

Could've had 2 pair or flush draw or a set on this board , you're losing to more then just a set on the flop.
Hard call, maybe a disciplined fold. Sets are incredibly easy to disguise thats why people love them so much.

I'd have probably folded.

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It's possible i am a donk. But the players here often play toppair and pairs very aggro.
Yes sets are very nice if you have them, not so fun to run into.

Here's a tip that will save you some dough, especially at these stakes. I don't even know if I want to tell you this honestly.... j/k

If you're against a fish that limp calls pre-flop, don't expect them to come back over the top with draws or top pair against you on the flop or turn. They are pretty much only ever doing this with big made hands (2 pair+). A fish that limp calls pre-flop is going to stay consistent with his weak play and call with draws and top pair.

John A said:

Here's a tip that will save you some dough, especially at these stakes. I don't even know if I want to tell you this honestly.... j/k

If you're against a fish that limp calls pre-flop, don't expect them to come back over the top with draws or top pair against you on the flop or turn. They are pretty much only ever doing this with big made hands (2 pair+). A fish that limp calls pre-flop is going to stay consistent with his weak play and call with draws and top pair.

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Thank you very much! I need overall to stop expect other to play the way i play or the correct way.

Long version
My mental game has always been bad and i still have big leaks. I really hate to be checkraised and tend to talk myself into things i shouldnt do. Even if i am up against a 30/4 do i think that he is bluffing.
And i have huge bias to the way i should play the hand if i was in his shoes, which tend to do that i can't see how someone possible can do this and that.
Mostly in cashgames because i have much less experience in those.

I hope this makes sense in some way.

I think you should take off by hand because as you yourself said, had no information about it. But sometimes we die embraced with a worse hand for lack of temperance, what I mean by love too certain hands. I think you could only take that call after meeting the player.

I think I'd make the call as well. This could be a legitimate shove with QJ/KJ/AJ of spades in which case they're flipping against your hand and they're making the right play. J8 is a possibility, AJ as well, and you're not in terrible shape against J8 even. The two hands you have to worry about are 88 and 55, which are only 2 out of the entire range of hands he could be doing this with.

That being said, the fact you have no history on this hand leans me toward a fold. I want to see him do this with combo draws and TPTK hands so I'm more confident I'm not running into the nuts.

this one is tough because you do not have any stats on that player, and his range could be wide open the way the hand played out... in the end you never want to go broke so unless you have a solid read I would have let it go...

this is a standard "fist bump when he shoves" go broke EVERY TIME situation. You just can't fold AA here.

Your opponent has a hand range. When I envision the hands they would check-shove with in a 3bet pot you are ahead of most of them. Furthermore, the play at 25nl is loose/weak.

bad players are more inclined to check/raise with naked spades or another hand that can never get worse hands to call (99,TT,QQ,KK,AJ,KJ,QJ, 9sTs, QsTs)

Anyone who even says that folding is an option here is a losing poker player and can't even beat the microstakes.

Standard as played on both sides.

Karozi615 said:

this is a standard "fist bump when he shoves" go broke EVERY TIME situation. You just can't fold AA here.

Your opponent has a hand range. When I envision the hands they would check-shove with in a 3bet pot you are ahead of most of them. Furthermore, the play at 25nl is loose/weak.

bad players are more inclined to check/raise with naked spades or another hand that can never get worse hands to call (99,TT,QQ,KK,AJ,KJ,QJ, 9sTs, QsTs)

Anyone who even says that folding is an option here is a losing poker player and can't even beat the microstakes.

Standard as played on both sides.

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Thanks for your input, i am pretty bad and have always been a bad nit in cashgames, i am more and more revaluate my play and this must be standard yes. It's just one of those unlucky situations. If you fold here you are a tight-weak player, in other words the way i played a long time.

Karozi615 said:

this is a standard "fist bump when he shoves" go broke EVERY TIME situation. You just can't fold AA here.

Your opponent has a hand range. When I envision the hands they would check-shove with in a 3bet pot you are ahead of most of them. Furthermore, the play at 25nl is loose/weak.

bad players are more inclined to check/raise with naked spades or another hand that can never get worse hands to call (99,TT,QQ,KK,AJ,KJ,QJ, 9sTs, QsTs)

Anyone who even says that folding is an option here is a losing poker player and can't even beat the microstakes.

Standard as played on both sides.

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Thanks for your input, i am pretty bad and have always been a bad nit in cashgames, i am more and more revaluate my play and this most be standard yes. It's just one of those unlucky situations. If you fold here you are a tight-weak player, in other words the way i played a long time.
If not the villain is a total nit.

John A said:

Here's a tip that will save you some dough, especially at these stakes. I don't even know if I want to tell you this honestly.... j/k

If you're against a fish that limp calls pre-flop, don't expect them to come back over the top with draws or top pair against you on the flop or turn. They are pretty much only ever doing this with big made hands (2 pair+). A fish that limp calls pre-flop is going to stay consistent with his weak play and call with draws and top pair.

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+1. Thanks for this john. :icon_thum