99 in the big blind.

SB is a decent 28/16 player, fairly aggressive.
CO is a horrible 50/15 player.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9♦ 9♠
2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, SB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8♠ J♣ 7♦ (10.5SB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero...

What's my plan? And more importantly, why?

You raise (two bets) . Granted you didn't hit much on the flop (gutshot straight draw), but raising gives you information on how SB stands (CO not so much do to his/her poor poker playing) after the flop. Not to mention, you still need to be aggressive with a hand like this with only one overcard on the flop. If SB calls, he.she probably paired the flop or maybe chasing the straight. CO will probably call. The plan here is to win the pot as soon as possible when there is a possibility a player has you beat by pairing the Jack on the flop. Well, that what I would do anyway. I'm sure somone else has a different take and plan on it.

t1riel said:

You raise (two bets) . Granted you didn't hit much on the flop (gutshot straight draw), but raising gives you information on how SB stands (CO not so much do to his/her poor poker playing) after the flop. Not to mention, you still need to be aggressive with a hand like this with only one overcard on the flop. If SB calls, he.she probably paired the flop or maybe chasing the straight. CO will probably call. The plan here is to win the pot as soon as possible when there is a possibility a player has you beat by pairing the Jack on the flop. Well, that what I would do anyway. I'm sure somone else has a different take and plan on it.

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I agree with Tim - 4 words I dont think i've typed before . If the J was a K or an A it would be different, but i reckon there's every chance you're ahead here, and there's only one way to find out. Raise to get rid of chasers behind you, and call down to the river if SB bets again.

I'm going for a lie down now .

Scratch that, Raise this one through.

I agree with Tim also. I would bet aggressively on the flop and river just to get information and to try to get draws out of the hand. I would also bet aggressively on the turn just to verify my standing in the hand. If the turn doesn't help any draw, then there is a good chance i'm playing against the jack and I know i'm beat. If the river doesn't help, I check down and call a small raise (pot odds justify the call), but I would fold to a 2 times raise.

I'm glad no one's said "fold."

Yup, it's a clear raise. The SB who capped preflop is not a maniac, but this is AK some portion of the time, and for those times I desperately want the CO out of "my" pot. So I raise, give him two bets to consider, and hopefully he'll fold.

There were no decisions left to make in this hand that didn't make themselves after that raise, but for those of you who want to know how it played out:

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9♦ 9♠
2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, SB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8♠ J♣ 7♦ (10.5SB, 3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: 6♠ (8.25BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: 5♦ (10.25BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14.25BB

sorry to hijack the post, but what do the numbers mean?:
SB is a decent 28/16 player, fairly aggressive.
CO is a horrible 50/15 player.

I've never played by the numbers, but am starting to consider studying it in this manner

%flops seen and i don't know the second.

Styrofoam said:

%flops seen and i don't know the second.

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I think it refers to the VP$IP wich isn't the same as flops seen. It's how often you voluntarely put money in to the pot. So when you are in the BB and check it doesn't raise your VP$IP unless you put money in after the flop. If you call before the flop but decided to fold to a raise it would also raise your VP$IP even though you didn't see the flop. If I'm wrong, then please correct me somebody because I'm very new to PT, so I may be wrong.

Where is the definition thread?
VP? IP? CO?
I didn't know the numbers either Chuck.
I try to read these Analysis threads and sometimes i can't make heads or tails because I don't know these terms or how they apply to the hand.
I suppose I'm still a newbie when it comes to this part of the game. I play mostly on "feel" if you want to call it anything and I know this is keeping me from getting more out of pots than I could.

CO is cutoff...its the seat next to the right of the button

ChuckTs said:

sorry to hijack the post, but what do the numbers mean?:
SB is a decent 28/16 player, fairly aggressive.
CO is a horrible 50/15 player.

I've never played by the numbers, but am starting to consider studying it in this manner

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I'm pretty sure it's PokerTracker speak. They are percentages where XX/XX = VP$IP/PFR. VP$IP = Voluntarily Put Money In Pot. PFR = Pre-Flop Raise. When you use a Heads-Up Display program with PokerTracker (like GameTime+), these are usually the first 2 numbers displayed. They help determine how loose/tight & passive/aggressive the player is.

What I want to know: I don't see who won. Did the 99 hold up for the straight? Or did the donk have T9 & get lucky? (Or is it obvious and I'm such a pessimist because I've been screwed by the lucky donk play too many times?)

Ah, no. The SB plays fairly well, so it's relatively clear what he has, I think. He wouldn't cap preflop without a powerhouse hand, and given that I should get some respect for my raises, he probably wouldn't 3-bet the flop without a high pocket pair. I knew I was beat when he 3-bet the flop, but by then there was no folding left to be done - pot odds carried me the rest of the way.

He had QQ.

And yes, the numbers are pokertracker speak. MrSticker was spot on.

AT LAST

robwhufc said:

I agree with Tim - 4 words I dont think i've typed before .

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Rob, I guess you now know (FINALLY) that Tim is good poker player. At least you were the bigger man and finally admitted it.