$600 PLO Heads-up: Overpair with FD facing turn bet....

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 63/55/5

Same villain as my previous hand, on a 2nd table from our other match. We have a somewhat tricky spot on the turn here. How should we proceed in this situation? Do we fold, flat call, raise? What do we think he has in this hand?


Merge - $6 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $603.00
BB: $1,324.50

Hero posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero has 2:diamond: 5:diamond: Q:diamond: Q:spade:

Hero raises to $18.00, BB raises to $54.00, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($108.00, 2 players) 6:heart: 8:diamond: 8:spade:
BB bets $42.00, Hero calls $42.00

Turn: ($192.00, 2 players) 9:diamond:
BB bets $144.00, Hero???

Unless he has shown the ability to bluff dry, paired boards and continue on dangerous turns, I'd give up here. I think this is a totally standard fold on the flop against most villains honestly but you have a pretty good read.

Villain has been hyper aggressive in our matches and he can very well play a bluff the same as the nuts as he's done it before. What do you think is his perceived range?

I think he mostly has straight draws/wraps on the flop along with a few overpairs, 8x, 6x, some overpairs and air.

Okay so I wasn't a full believer based on previous hands:

Turn: ($192.00, 2 players) 9:diamond:
BB bets $144.00, Hero calls $144.00

River: ($480.00, 2 players) 4:diamond:
BB bets $480.00, Hero ???

baudib1 said:

I think he mostly has straight draws/wraps on the flop along with a few overpairs, 8x, 6x, some overpairs and air.

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Which part of his range would you lean more heavily towards?

Mostly wraps and 8x, 87xx. Have to say against 99.5% of PLO players I've played against, this river is a super snap fold but against this guy I can see calling.

So can we justify a call given we've rivered 3rd nut flush?

I'd fold in a vacuum. If you feel you can call based on gameflow that's based on info I don't really have.

Fair enough, I'll wait to see what a few others think then I'll post the results.

Sucks, but what hands can we beat? air, 9x, ?

why call flop/turn if folding to diamond river bringing op Q hi flush?


(no sarcasm involved, being serious ^^)

To be fair we're not folding once we hit the Q high flush as we've pretty much committed ourselves at this point. Looking back over the hand this one ended up being more of an in game read based on prior knowledge of the opponent and his tendencies.

Merge - $6 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $603.00
BB: $1,324.50

Hero posts SB $3.00, BB posts BB $6.00

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero has 2:diamond: 5:diamond: Q:diamond: Q:spade:

Hero raises to $18.00, BB raises to $54.00, Hero calls $36.00

Flop: ($108.00, 2 players) 6:heart: 8:diamond: 8:spade:
BB bets $42.00, Hero calls $42.00

Turn: ($192.00, 2 players) 9:diamond:
BB bets $144.00, Hero calls $144.00

River: ($480.00, 2 players) 4:diamond:
BB bets $480.00, Hero calls $363.00 and is all-in

BB shows A:heart: K:diamond: T:spade: T:heart: (Two Pair, Tens and Eights) (Pre 52%, Flop 34%, Turn 17%)
Hero shows 2:diamond: 5:diamond: Q:diamond: Q:spade: (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 48%, Flop 66%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $1,205.50

This villain is very aggressive and has no fear in triple barreling if he feels it will work. Given the fact he has been 3 betting about 20% of his hands from the BB we can safely call with this pre. However we can still polarize his range to usually include high rundowns, double suited pair hands, double paired hands and also stuff like AKJ4 ds with the dangler.

Once the flop comes with a pair we can comfortably semi-float this flop even though we now know we were ahead. Once the turn brings a 2nd diamond we have picked up a FD to go with our two pair and only a small part of his range includes middish rundown type hands. Once we commit to seeing a river we are obviously commited to calling whatever bet he may put out as well, as there stands a good chance we have the best hand. This villain does what alot of folks do when they bluff on the river HU and that's go full pot. Even though I don't have a full pot bet left in my stack, most of the time he still bets something less than full pot for value unless he's bluffing.

As I said before this one may not have been as good as a player dependent read played into this more than I initially thought, but always good to discuss hands nonetheless.

I think the previous hand you posted is not so relevant since you happened to have a huge hand, even in terms of relative strength.

The most important piece of information is probably how he perceives you.