$600 NLHE Full Ring: $600 NLHE : Boat vs Quads?

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Live Game, effective stacks 300-600 bbs
Hero 600 bb, Villian 350bb

Limped Pot
Villian in SB
Hero in MP with 44

Flop 642 rainbow
Villian leads with standard sized bet, Hero reraises, villian calls

Turn 6
Villian bets strongly, is reraised strongly, considers for a minute or two and then calls - about 1/3 our stacks are in the pot

River 6
Villian instantly shoves - It's a little less than the pot in overall size

Very loose table, very bad players, villian isn't as crazy as the others but still a very loose player - I am playing tight but wouldn't give people credit for noticing necessarily

Thoughts? I can reveal more info afterwards.
 
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Immediate bets are generally very polarizing, either he has the nuts or a bluff that was going to shove no matter the river card.
 
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Soon as we get sets we should b in stack off mode. The 6 pairs just encourages me more

I wouldnt have made it to river ... its a fold river but u need to have got stacks on b4 this.


Overshove weak players will call with 6
 
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How many players in pot? What are bet/raise sizes? This is pretty important information.

Really sucks, but river is most likely a fold. We just have a bluff catcher, and the way he played the hand, he's almost never bluffing. I expect to see quads and maybe some silly played overpairs 77-AA. Also people are much less willing to barrel off super deep-stacked.
 
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So it was a limped pot of about 5 players seeing the flop, I believed if sb had a pocket pair her would have raised.

SB led out with about a $25 bet on the flop, it was folded around to me and I reraised to about $80. He calls. Pot is about $200.

On turn he again leads out and puts in about $100, I reraise hard putting in about $700 expecting him to call with any holdings. He pauses and thinks and finally calls.

On river he instantly shoves his remaining chips, it was somewhere between $1200 and $1800 and I had him covered. Didn't feel good about the hand. Figured he either had the 6 or was bluffing and I don't think he would have bluffed on river because if I had a hand, that 6 probably meant I now had a monster.

I thought about it for about a minute and finally flipped over my 44, and said nice 6. The table oohed and awed about how it was such a bad river for me. Villian says he's glad I folded because he only had a straight but refuses to show, only showing one card for a 3.

I think if he would have said he was bluffing then he'd show entire bluff, not just half to make it plausible. I'm almost positive he had 63, which would also explain why he'd play the hand so hard given top pair + gut shot on flop, trips plus gut shot on turn and then 4 of a kind on river.

Furthermore, I think if he did have a flopped straight he would have 3bet me on the turn, but more importantly, would never have just insta shoved on river once any initial pair on flop meant his straight was now crushed.
 
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Looks like you played it fine and just got massively unlucky. You're beaten by so much on the river that I think it has to be a fold. You can really only beat weird Ace highs that have gotten to the river. Gut shots alone are unlikely to get there (A3 on a crazy day?!?!) and there aren't any busted flush draws. I'd sigh fold and then leave right after because I'd be really pissed.
 
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