6-max limit 5/10: A5s
Skoldpadda is reviewing a couple of my hands and I got a question as to what I was doing on the flop in this hand. I think I played it fine.
Villain is 83/19/1.5 or so over a sample of about 100 hands.
Game #8915690206: Hold'em Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/03/15 - 15:33:30 (ET)
Table 'Hermippe' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: UTG ($67 in chips)
Seat 2: FPau ($345.50 in chips)
Seat 3: CO ($336 in chips)
Seat 4: Villain ($233.50 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($570 in chips)
Seat 6: BB ($160 in chips)
SB: posts small blind $2
B: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FPau [5d Ad]
FPau: raises $5 to $10
Villain: calls $10
SB: calls $8
BB: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [6h 3d 8c]
FPau: bets $5
Villain: raises $5 to $10
FPau: calls $5 <------------- I don't like this. I think I'd give it up here.
(Yellow being Skoldpadda's remark)
The preflop raise, for starters, is right on the margin of what I open with. I would fold A6o, for instance.
Now let's look at the flop: There are 8 small bets in when I make my first bet. Then Villain - our local maniac - raises, making it 11 small bets when the action is back on me. A weak ace is not much to smile about in this situation, but it's also not the only thing I have and it's not the only thing to consider, I feel.
When the pots get big in limit hold 'em, it's time to look for every out you can. Here, I have a backdoor flush draw, some weak overcard outs and a heavily unlikely backdoor straight draw. This probably doesn't add up to the pot odds
I need, to make the call outright, though, but it should at least make it somewhat close. I only need four outs to make the call and I'm ahead some percentage of the time still.
The other thing to consider, besides the pot odds
, is that I shouldn't show a willingness to fold the flop for just one more. If there's one thing I don't
want it's people starting to raise me left and right on the flop because they know that I will make laydowns. Not all meta-game advantages are worth much money, but this one is pretty big to me.
It's important to realize that I'm not just peeling the flop here, I'm more or less committing myself to showdown. It's not standard, but against some players it is and occasionally also against good players since they will otherwise run me over if I make a habit of folding too much. It's a difficult balanace and one that I'm pretty sure I'm not anywhere near mastering yet.