6-max dishing me out another tough spot!

Another one I thought i'd share.

She claimed to have AA after the hand...

I put her on 22 or A10. More leaning towards a set of 2s because of the min raise OTF and limping. If she did actually limp in with AA then very nice play on her part, she didn't have the image of someone who would purposely pull this off though. A few hands before she went crazy with 55 on a board with 5 overcards including an ace, and is the short stack at the table.

Any feedback or opinions guys? Here it is.

full tilt poker Game #33930953028: Table Rome (6 max) - NL Hold'em - $0.05/$0.10 - 22:34:30 ET - 2014/02/20
Seat 1: jessiejuice ($8.01)
Seat 2: akaRobbo ($18.85)
Seat 3: rlukkk ($10)
Seat 4: realcndn ($11.25)
Seat 5: look out27 ($18.55)
Seat 6: Maelstrom666 ($10.27)
look out27 posts the small blind of $0.05
Maelstrom666 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to akaRobbo [Kh Js]
jessiejuice calls $0.10
akaRobbo calls $0.10
rlukkk folds
realcndn calls $0.10
look out27 calls $0.05
Maelstrom666 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 2c Jd] (Total Pot: $0.50, 5 Players)
look out27 checks
Maelstrom666 checks
jessiejuice checks
akaRobbo bets $0.30
realcndn has 15 seconds left to act
realcndn calls $0.30
look out27 folds
Maelstrom666 folds
jessiejuice raises to $0.60
akaRobbo raises to $1.50
realcndn folds
jessiejuice has 15 seconds left to act
jessiejuice calls $0.90
*** TURN *** [Ks 2c Jd] [Qh] (Total Pot: $3.80, 2 Players)
jessiejuice has 15 seconds left to act
jessiejuice bets $5
akaRobbo has 15 seconds left to act
akaRobbo has requested TIME
akaRobbo folds
Uncalled bet of $5 returned to jessiejuice
jessiejuice mucks
jessiejuice wins the pot ($3.61)

If you put your opponents on ranges instead of specific hands you may realize you have more equity than you thought.

I can see folding the turn, and playing another hand. I wonder what villain's $5 bet means.

Edit: what I'm trying to say is that the more cards in villains range, the more equity you should have vs his range.

By limiting his range to just two hands your equity looks worse than it is.

Top pair great kicker like AK is what I think it might be. A set is possible and AA is possible. I like your discipline to fold. Your opponent is probably saying his actual hand. Makes sense to me. But you never know, he could be bluffing.

Hmm limped with AK?

I'm a caller here most of the time, expecially vs someone I don't know well. Do you think that limped preflop was the right decision?

UTG+1 with KJ offsuit, yeah im limping that.

Not that I think its bad, just curious how often you are limping that hand after a limper. I'm very "pro isolationist" when it comes to playing behind a limper.

akaRobbo said:

A few hands before she went crazy with 55 on a board with 5 overcards including an ace, and is the short stack at the table.

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With only the information you've given on villain, a strong two pair is way too good to fold. It's hard to imagine someone taking that line with many worse hands, but the only read you have is that she's a spewy bad player.

$5.00 into a $3.80 pot looks like A10 to me but I believe that she has AA, a bad player would bet it like that.

akaRobbo said:

UTG+1 with KJ offsuit, yeah im limping that.

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You say that like its the obvious. I'm never over limping with KJ there unless I have some note that says he limps AA UTG

akaRobbo said:

UTG+1 with KJ offsuit, yeah im limping that.

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Why is this the best choice in this situation?

First, limping the pot is alwful, you should raise or just fold pre!!! Next thing that i know is you are probably behind, against a set (22 is a hand that is in villain range pretty much, limping with 22 in multiway pot is right decision) , so fold is good enough here .

Yeah I limped in with KJ. Jesus. You know it would be much more helpful if people gave their opinions on how they would have played it, instead of just questioning what I did.

akaRobbo said:

Yeah I limped in with KJ. Jesus. You know it would be much more helpful if people gave their opinions on how they would have played it, instead of just questioning what I did.

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After the limp, you mean?

el_magiciann said:

First, limping the pot is alwful, you should raise or just fold pre!!! Next thing that i know is you are probably behind, against a set (22 is a hand that is in villain range pretty much, limping with 22 in multiway pot is right decision) , so fold is good enough here .

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Thank you! Telling me what you believe I did wrong or right is what im after! Good feedback

akaRobbo said:

Yeah I limped in with KJ. Jesus. You know it would be much more helpful if people gave their opinions on how they would have played it, instead of just questioning what I did.

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It would be much more helpful if you learn to accept that people can give you better feedback if they know what you were thinking and weren't. Sure, that's not always everyone's motivation every time. But try being open to the possibility that just because you don't like or want certain types of feedback doesn't mean they can't be helpful.

Arjonius said:

It would be much more helpful if you learn to accept that people can give you better feedback if they know what you were thinking and weren't. Sure, that's not always everyone's motivation every time. But try being open to the possibility that just because you don't like or want certain types of feedback doesn't mean they can't be helpful.

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I dont know what point you're trying to make, but ill just reinforce what I said previously. Ive already said I dont mind negative feedback, I dont however, like crappy feedback. If ive done something wrong or clearly played badly or different to how anyone else would have, I welcome people to tell me and give their thoughts.

"Do you think that limped preflop was the right decision?"

"Why is this the best choice in this situation?"

This isn't helpful at all.

So you believe knowing what you were and weren't thinking doesn't help people to give you better feedback.

Asking legitimate questions isn't crappy feedback. It's not feedback. It's seeking more info prior to giving feedback.

And you ask people to give you their thoughts without being willing to give yours.

Arjonius said:

So you believe knowing what you were and weren't thinking doesn't help people to give you better feedback.

Asking legitimate questions isn't crappy feedback. It's not feedback. It's seeking more info prior to giving feedback.

And you ask people to give you their thoughts without being willing to give yours.

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The whole hand is listed right there. What other info do you desperately need? Others have been able to cope.

Yeah im asking people for thoughts, its a forum.

KJo at UTG 1+ deeps.... this is a simple fold my friend. We don't want to get deep pots with our marginal hands and OOP

Hmmm plus if we Raise pre we are knocking out the hands we do beat, but if they 3bet we can simply fold which looks weak anyways. Not too bad if you get Aces in early position next cycle and play the same...

I think you simply fold KJo is just not that great in early position.


** we want out opponents in tough spots and avoid putting us in tough spots** theres not many flops out there we will like oop

akaRobbo said:

The whole hand is listed right there. What other info do you desperately need? Others have been able to cope.

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Why are you desperate not to reveal what you were thinking? Others have been able to.

Yeah im asking people for thoughts, its a forum.

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

I was curious as to whether you had a specific reason for limping, maybe it has merit. In my limited experience the only reason to ever limp there is under a perfect storm or circumstances. Im going to list them for fun.....

THe limper limps with good hands

THe limper likes to limp reraise

THe blinds are smart enough to know you iso alot and will resteal

The Player behind you is also a loose fish (making your isolation efforts ineffective)


If all those things apply, its a limp (or fold). Otherwise, I raise.