5NL Zoom~ KK vs. lead by nit otr

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poker stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2628082
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BTN: $5.70 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1,8, hands: 12409
SB: $5.84 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 15
BB: $9.81 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 6, 3B: 3, AF: 2,8, Hands: 141
UTG: $5.05 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 13, 3B: 4, AF: 2,8, Hands: 211
Hero (MP): $6.33
CO: $2.64 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 19

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with K :heart: K :club:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.17, 3 folds, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.36) 4 :heart: 6 :heart: Q :spade: (2 players)
BB bets $0.17, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.33

Turn: ($1.36) 4 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB calls $1.10

River: ($3.56) 3 :heart: (2 players)
BB bets $1.70


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Thought he might have alot of Qx type hands when he lead flop. Now he leads river and I'm 99% sure he's not gonna bet any SD'able hand, unless he just lost his mind for a second. I remember he also had like 17% WTSD, not a huge sample but still... Sucks tho that I got Kh blocker.
 
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I would say this could be a blocker bet on the river from Qx but his small flop donk makes it look a lot like a draw. This should be a pretty easy fold.

Also, don't get snotty about people not responding to your thread when you post it in the wrong area of the forum. This belongs in the Hand Analysis section and would probably get a lot more attention there.
 
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Call bro

Looks like he's trying to rep a flush yet I can't see a flush value betting on paired board. I just think we have to call here.
 
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I would say this could be a blocker bet on the river from Qx but his small flop donk makes it look a lot like a draw. This should be a pretty easy fold.

Also, don't get snotty about people not responding to your thread when you post it in the wrong area of the forum. This belongs in the Hand Analysis section and would probably get a lot more attention there.
My mistake brah

thx for moving @tenbob
 
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Easy fold here. As this is NL5, players are more bet for value than bluffing
 
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hm
posted this first at 2+2, most of them said snapcalll, I wasnt sure so posted it here and 2/3 say fold :eek:
 
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hm
posted this first at 2+2, most of them said snapcalll, I wasnt sure so posted it here and 2/3 say fold :eek:

Considering you are getting 3 to 1 on the river and only need to win 25% of the time here a call is not bad but neither is a fold. I see it as a pretty even EV spot.

EDIT: Lol at saying someone would not value bet a flush on the river just because the board paired... If that was the case they probably would of folded the turn.
 
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EDIT: Lol at saying someone would not value bet a flush on the river just because the board paired... If that was the case they probably would of folded the turn.

He will still call turn with Qx and straigh flush heart combos, there is no sense for him to lead a flush only to get shipped on and left in a difficult spot. But thanks for loling at my feedback mate great confidence booster.
 
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Call bro

Looks like he's trying to rep a flush yet I can't see a flush value betting on paired board. I just think we have to call here.

a flush can (and should) be value betting in spots like this. very little chance a flush is behind and it's definitely much stronger than just a bluff catcher here.

as for whether to call or not. it's a half pot. you only need to be good 1/4 of the time and it's possible he's blocking with a queen. kind of gross tho since it sure seems like you're meat here the great majority of the time. i'm ok with either folding or calling.
 
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Feels like he has a flush. I'd call though, because he could be doing something weird. This would seem like a bluff line with a nothing hand, only I don't see many nothing hands making it to this river. You were probably about to bet that amount anyway so I think calling is probably correct.
 
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I would have decided to call here simply because with our over pair and the line we took ( only check calling since flop raise ).

Even though the board is paired and the flush draw got there villain can continue betting worse hands than ours like AQ or even missed straight draws as bluffs he has to keep betting those since he got no showdown value. So since we under represented our hand post flop we can call the river bet in my mind. :)
 
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You should call here, his bet looks he really have a 57 or a flush, but you should call he is betting just a half pot. Call here he can have a cards like Qx too.
 
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Call, if he has the flush or some boat or whatever then so be it. He'll probably be showing up with AQ alot. If he did just have a flush draw then he made a mistake calling a near pot sized bet on the turn.
 
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