[5nl] Top pair mid kicker called down

eNTy

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poker stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players

MP2: $5.97 (119.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): $5 (100 bb)
CO: $10.77 (215.4 bb)
BTN: $4.25 (85 bb)
SB: $1.88 (37.6 bb)
BB: $4 (80 bb)
UTG+1: $10.39 (207.8 bb)
MP1: $7.01 (140.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with J
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Q
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3 folds, Hero calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05, BTN raises to $0.10, SB folds, BB calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, CO calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.42) 2
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4
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J
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(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20, BTN folds, BB folds

Turn: ($0.82) 4
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Hero bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50

River: ($1.82) 9
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Hero checks, CO bets $1.10, Hero ???

Do you think this is a call on the river ?
I think it's safe to say he doesn't have a 4 or he would reraise me on the turn, probably not a bigger J as he would reraise me as well somewhere right ? So that only leaves 2 pair, sets and busted straight draws really, or of course an over pair but they would definitely reraise preflop imo.

So this is a call then right ? Or should I even go as far as 3betting the river ? This seems kind of risky with a mediocre hand like mine tbh.
 
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JimmyBrizzy

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Well I'm really only used to playing 6max cash, but this still seems like limping here is pretty weak. I'd rather see a raise from this position.

As played to the river I'm calling, this guy could really have just about anything and you're getting okay odds.

Just to note this player seems very passive post flop at .67 aggr. (depends on how many hands you have on him though) So it is actually less likely that he is going to reraise you on any street whether or not he has the best hand. Usually against passive calling stations you would want to catch top pair w/ an okay kicker then just value bet them to the river since they will be calling you down with top pair no kicker, mid-pair (maybe less), draws, high cards or who knows what else at these stakes.
 
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Should be a pretty standard muck in this position playing full ring, yes?
 
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as played I fold the river (I think). imo your flop bet should have been larger .30-.40 to go (better would have been to just fold in bad position preflop). Then bet 2/3 on the turn and reevaluate. I am a donktard though so tifwiw
 
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c9 if you're talking about pre then yes I usually fold but I like to occasionally limp in with it.

And to Lik I think I have between 100-200 hands on this guy so stats should be reliable of sorts. And I agree with calling the river here..
You said: 'As played' would you play it different then ? Do you agree with steve, bigger pot bet ?
 
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thats a tough situation, thats why i usually dont play QJ but, in your case i would more than likely fold because there are many hands that have beat. the only thing u can beat is a bluff, checking the river with a mediocre hand prob was a mistake too. if your bet hard u may more than likely push him off a hand like KJ.
 
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c9 if you're talking about pre then yes I usually fold but I like to occasionally limp in with it.

And to Lik I think I have between 100-200 hands on this guy so stats should be reliable of sorts. And I agree with calling the river here..
You said: 'As played' would you play it different then ? Do you agree with steve, bigger pot bet ?

It was just I would have considered raising this 3-4xbb or mucking from the start, so I'm not sure what I would have done in a 4-way pot after limping in as I don't really play FR.

I myself probably would have bet a 2/3 to pot on the flop and if I got a caller most likely checked the turn and tried to get to showdown cheaply or fold.

But, as played, I'm probably calling river and kicking myself when he has me beat.
 
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