50nlHU: middle pair line check

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This was only 2nd hand between us, just want to check to see if everyone plays this same way, or if there is an alt

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poker stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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Hero (SB): $112.05 (224.1 bb)
BB: $53.20 (106.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 9
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A
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Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($5) 9
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3
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K
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BB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($12) 5
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BB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($26) 9
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BB bets $12.50, Hero raises to $96.50
 
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Looks good to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he instafolds though. This double donk on only the 2nd hand is likely just someone trying to set an aggressive image more than a strong hand. Of course with my luck he backdoored the flush.
 
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looks good to me exept with the big raise on the river i might not have gone so big because with the reraise he could have had a PP and hit a set which would have given him the boat and like the gentalman above me said he could have backdoor flushed as well they strength of they hand didnt justify the hard shove i think but then again i am a tight player also
 
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I like it. You'll get wtf-called by a lot of kings who won't believe you have the 9.
 
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Anyone here think the turn decision is the iffy one? How many barrels do you typically see fired at 50NL HU? I'm torn on wether the turn is a fold or not.
 
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Anyone here think the turn decision is the iffy one? How many barrels do you typically see fired at 50NL HU? I'm torn on wether the turn is a fold or not.

this was my main concern, whether we should still be in the hand after the turn, and also if we should just flat river on the basis of what hands triple barrel that we beat, since villain isn't folding to a raise with ~50% of stack in unless on a complete bluff. Is our river hand more of a bluff catcher?
 
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this was my main concern, whether we should still be in the hand after the turn, and also if we should just flat river on the basis of what hands triple barrel that we beat, since villain isn't folding to a raise with ~50% of stack in unless on a complete bluff. Is our river hand more of a bluff catcher?
Trips, top kicker, is decidely more than a bluff catcher on the river unless you know something about this opponent that you're not telling us.

Given the size of his bet on the turn, I like a call. His bet could mean any number of things, including just second-barrelling a trash hand, barrelling AJ to not let you get a free six-outer, or barrelling 66 for the same reason, or just value-towning you with T9s.

With the information that we have on the turn, we can't fold when we're getting 3:1. Once we know that he bets the river we might second-guess our turn decision (since it now seems very likely that he has a hand like AK) but we didn't know that on the turn.
 
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I'm maybe folding the turn if he pots it (or something close), but not to his 1/2 pot bet. On the river, I think you get looked up by most Kings and all 9s, so there is definitely value to the river shove.
 
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Turn is probably a fold vs an unknown but shoving river is perfectly fine, since an unknown is probably not folding KQ/AK/AA etc.

You have to be careful you don't start to spew when they do these tiny little 3Bs...since it is so cheap it is tempting to call with ATC preflop, then call flop when you hit a piece, but if you start calling turn and river with like 2nd or 3rd pair when you have 0 idea of villain's range/frequencies, you can get yourself in serious trouble.
 
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