50nlHU: Kings semi deep, line check

Firstly, stoxpoker is being teh ghey and won't convert my HH coz its from a non supported site or some shit like that, so raw HH will have to do.

Villain only raises ~75% buttons and folds all the crap preflop, but hasn't folded once to a 3 bet, he's never gone to showdown however so i don't know if he has just hand a 3 bet calling type hand each time or whatev.

He isn't aggressive pretty much full stop, he c/c 3 streets with a,j on a J high board so isn't going to go apeshit with top pair here and get it in on the flop. After 50 hands he hadn't attempted a single bluff, but i recently caught him bluffing for his first time (his bet sizing was too huge in comparison to how he was playing so i looked him up), so there is an outside chance he may be a bit tilty. I have already triple barrel shoved 3 rivers, once with the nuts which he saw, and 2 others which he hasnt seen. Hes also a bit of a calling station on flop and turn since i have cbet flop and turn pretty much 100% (purely since i had hit cards not from bluffing) and villain has tank folded a couple of turn cards ive barreled. He hasn't called down light on any rivers yet however, tank calling bottom 2 pair on a very wet board is the lightest he has called

so to end all this, do we like river shove?

(should also note i have been 3betting enough that my range isnt exclusive to hands that hit the ace)


Seat 1: switch0723 ($79 in chips)
Seat 2: PAKKKK ($68.60 in chips)
PAKKKK: posts small blind $0.25
switch0723: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to switch0723 [Kh Kd]
PAKKKK: raises $1 to $1.50
switch0723: raises $3.50 to $5
PAKKKK: calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [3h 4s Jh]
switch0723: bets $7
PAKKKK: calls $7
*** TURN *** [3h 4s Jh] [9s]
switch0723: bets $19.50
PAKKKK: calls $19.50
*** RIVER *** [3h 4s Jh 9s] [Ac]
switch0723: bets $47.50 and is all-in

From your description of your opponent I don't like the river shove. I just can't see him calling with a jack here. I'd also be at least a little concerned that he was calling down with the nut flush draw and rivered the ace. Basically to me the only hand you beat that's calling is exactly QQ (and he may fold that) but I doubt anybody plays QQ like this HU.

I bet like 80% of the pot on the turn, thats a pretty healthy bet, betting bigger may aswell be a shove

If your happy getting it in on the river, checking to induce a value bet from a jack or a bluff at the ace is probably better than betting it yourself.

but villain isn't a bluffing/betting type, he is basically checking everything back on the river, jacks/aces/even small 2 pair's, hes a callnig station type so we have to do all the valueing ourselves

It's a bit thin but given your read I would probably play it the same. NH.

nah, he's not value betting a J. and the only hands he can have to bluff with are draws, but he's described as being stationy and not that aggressive. keep in mind also it's a 3bet pot. i think c/f is definitely better than c/c, he's gonna bet with worse pretty rarely

imo betting is best even though a little thin. possible alternative to the shove is to make a transparent tiny bet that pretty much ensures we get looked up by Jx but valuetowns ourself less often. but this is already not a large bet at all so i've got not problem with it (not sure if everyone noticed villain has less $ than we do, so we're actually shoving $36 into $60ish)

If your happy getting it in on the river, checking to induce a value bet from a jack or a bluff at the ace is probably better than betting it yourself.

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I wanted to agree here, but after your description of this particular opponent,I like a c/f.

If villain sticks to the read we've got on him then I don't like the river shove - we're beat almost every single time we get called, and we're rarely folding out better hands.

It's lame and I wouldn't do it against many opponents, but in this specific case I'd probably go for a blocking bet on the river instead. Maybe around the $10 mark, cheap enough that an unimproved jack will still call us, and it minimises our losses when villain calls us with AJ or A4 or w/e.

So... pretty much what combu said, actually.

Everything up to the river looks 100% standard to me, BTW.

results yo

villain tank folded what i presume was a jack

I really don't like the line of checking since his hand is always always always a jack and we are only afraid of a,j, and he is 100% checking a jack behind on river. I shoved to give him the chance of a hero call, but i know think the smaller value bet is better