[50nl FR] Too passive? River call?

icemonkey9

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Villain is 11/9/2.5 over 230 hands and has a Fold to flop % of 88%.

I have been fairly TAGish at 14/10 and have 3bet something like 8% actually at this table if I remember right.

First question - was this too passive at the flop? My cbets at this table were getting called left and right. I didn't necessarily like this flop to cbet. The turn fills the flush and some weird straight combos, so I didn't like betting there.

I hit the A on the river ... I really never thought about raising this but is flatting this river bad?

***** Game number #21002601104 *****
Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/07 13:43:19 ET
Table 'Parana' 9-max
Seat 9 (BTN) has the button.
SB posts small blind [$0.25]
BB posts big blind [$0.50]
Seat 2 : SB with $11.05.
Seat 3 : BB with $50.00.
Seat 4 : UTG with $56.20.
Seat 5 : UTG+1 with $57.80.
Seat 6 : MP1 with $13.50.
Seat 7 : Hero with $47.50.
Seat 8 : CO with $70.80.
Seat 9 : BTN with $50.00.

hand.pl

** Dealing hole cards **
Dealt to Hero :
:kc4: :ad4:

UTG raises $1.50 to $2
UTG+1: folds
MP1 calls [$2]
Hero raises $6 to $8
CO: folds
BTN: folds
SB: folds
BB: folds
UTG calls [$6]
MP1: folds

** Dealing Flop ** [Potsize: $18.75]
:6h4: :7h4: :jc4:
UTG: checks
Hero: checks

** Dealing Turn ** [Potsize: $18.75]
:4h4:
UTG: checks
Hero: checks

** Dealing River ** [Potsize: $18.75]
:as4:
UTG bets [$6]
Hero ????https://www.cardschat.com
 
Richyl2008

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I think you played this fine. Although I don't mind a minraise on the river:)
 
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Flop: I don't see what good a cbet would do.

Turn: I don't know about the turn but I wouldn't worry about the straight. It's very unlikely for him to have a five. Bet 3/4 of the pot? I dunno.

River: The ace hits him so I guess AK,AQ, or AJ. That goes split, win, and lose at 4/1. Good call.

Curious what others think about raising river bet.
 
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I think this one is fine and agreed that you could minraise/fold this river as this villain is not shoving anything but a flush and you get some added value out of AQ/AJ. Although I don't see too many 11/9s flatting AQ/AJ out of position to a 3bet.
 
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I'll let a little more discussion happen before revealing this result.

A raise on the river never occurred to me because:

1. We're beaten by a slowplayed set (unlikely)
2. We're beaten by a flush (probable)
3. Bizarre straight combos (VERY unlikely) like 58 and 35
4. Unlucky 2 pair for AJ or 67

I mean ... given the preflop action something like 67s seems super unlikely but AJ isn't out of the realm of possibility and certainly JJ would have played it this way.
 
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This looks like a good hand. There's always the feeling of second guessing yourself after a huge laydown or somewhat odd size bet. I think you played this fine.
 
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I don't know about the raise some talk about, maybe it's just a lack of experience. I definitely call here though. A/J is doubtful as you would think to have seen a bet on the flop unless your villan likes slowplaying beatable hands.

I like a small sized c-bet on the flop too, otherwise it's really hard to know what you are up against. If I had to take a stab at it I would guess a PP, anywhere from 10+. what did he have?
 
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Flatting isn't horrible but i'd make a small raise on this river i think. Villain doesn't have a set coz he would have bet both AA/JJ and isn't going to flat with anything worse and combinatorially AQ is a little more likely than AK (if you think AQ is in villain's flatting range). But yea villain isn't ever giong to have AJ here so you are probably splitting at worst with a chance to get some extra value from AQ.
 
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I did flat the river bet.

RESULT:


Villain turned over AQh for the nut flush.
 
Double-A

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I'm curious about ruling out AJ as a possibility. Wouldn't AJ (especially w/ a heart/hearts) check this flop?
 
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