50nl FR QQ vs. check-raise on under flop

zachvac

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pokerstars GAME #16174382855: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/03/22 - 19:13:04 (ET)
Table 'Zimmerwald III' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: Seamus Jack ($24.60 in chips)
Seat 3: LIONHEARTFF8 ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: cpickell ($49.85 in chips)
Seat 5: zachvac ($59.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Chezowan ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 8: porcupine69 ($106.20 in chips)
Seat 9: RBRTT ($11.15 in chips)
porcupine69: posts small blind $0.25
RBRTT: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachvac [Qd Qc]
Seamus Jack: folds
LIONHEARTFF8: folds
cpickell: raises $1 to $1.50
zachvac: raises $2.50 to $4
Chezowan: folds
porcupine69: calls $3.75
RBRTT: folds
cpickell: calls $2.50
*** FLOP *** [8d 7s 5s]
porcupine69: checks
cpickell: checks
zachvac: bets $6
porcupine69: raises $9 to $15
zachvac: ???

villain is 25/15/5.8 over ~100 hands
 
Effexor

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Folds. What hands check raise here? The range of hands that would do that mostly has QQ crushed, AA, KK sets, 87soooted. Granted you might be able to fit 99-JJ in there, but it's such a small % of the possible holdings it's not worth going broke.

Do you have any reads? I have a feeling this guy was bluffing.
 
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But most of the hands beating me here don't make sense to do this either. With that kind of board is a set really going to check-raise? 2 pair? What happens when a 6 and/or spade hits? All of a sudden not only does he have cause to worry but he's not getting value out of me if I do have a hand like QQ. That's the thing, I don't even know what hands do this at all. Even a straight could be afraid of the flush draw. 46s or 69s maybe?

And no reads other than the stats there, I'm multitabling.
 
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i dont mind shipping it in on this flop, people generally c/r with combo draws (pair + OESD, TP + gutshot, etc) and occasionally show up with something like A8 often enough to make stacking off here profitable.
 
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