Originally Posted by WVHillbilly
Are you sure you have QQ and not QJs???
This is almost always AK. AA/KK likely don't shove as a 4bet. I call.
eh, i think this is AA/KK decently often. hell, i see people openshoving AA/KK at full ring more than you'd believe, so 4bet pushing is way more reasonable than that. and if he thinks you're somewhat crazy, he may believe thats the best way to get the money in
if anything, you could use a different line of reasoning and say that this type of player is frequently not 4betting AK in this spot at all, so the sheer fact that he 4bet regardless of size makes his AA/KK frequency considerable in comparison
i mean, let's put it this way. we're 125 BBs deep vs. an EP nit who's 4betting. our image can hold some weight, but an 11/8 doesn't exactly look like the type of player who's playing others' ranges as much as his own cards.
if he'd do this with JJ or some other worse pair a decent portion of the time, it's a call. if not, it's a fold. how likely are those hands to be a solid part of his range? i dunno, people do weird stuff sometimes, so a call is certainly not awful. i just think it's quite close