[50nl FR] Eat a taco on the beach? (Cbet? Wait?)

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UTG+1 = 24/8/4 and fold to flop bet of 60%
CO = 42/15/4 and 25%

Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/04 2:34:46 ET
Table 'Crommelin' 9-max
Seat 4 (BTN) has the button.
SB posts small blind [$0.25]
BB posts big blind [$0.50]
Seat 1 : Hero with $65.90.
Seat 2 : MP3 with $37.25.
Seat 3 : CO with $50.00.
Seat 4 : BTN with $65.60.
Seat 5 : SB with $49.50.
Seat 6 : BB with $50.00.
Seat 7 : UTG with $71.10.
Seat 8 : UTG+1 with $45.65.
Seat 9 : MP1 with $44.50.

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** Dealing hole cards **
Dealt to Hero :
:ah4: :ks4:

UTG: folds
UTG+1 raises $1.50 to $2
MP1: folds
Hero raises $4 to $6
MP3: folds
CO calls [$6]
BTN: folds
SB: folds
BB: folds
UTG+1 calls [$4]

** Dealing Flop ** [Potsize: $18.75]
:4h4: :6s4:
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UTG+1: checks
Hero ???


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UTG+1 has something like a medium pocket pair like always here, so i very much doubt a cbet has much fold equity. Also, the pot is not so dry as it allows straight and/or flush draws that can raise you out of the best hand here. 3 handed I think this can be a check, but then again i've been cbetting less aggressively lately, so i may just be turning into zach. :eek:
 
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Against UTG+1 then yea I figure firing off a c-bet would work. The fish in the CO though will call with any piece of that flop and any pair. I check and hope I get to a free turn.
 
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tenbob said:
Against UTG+1 then yea I figure firing off a c-bet would work.
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Really? A player with 8% PFR raises UTG+1 and flats a 3bet. This is 88-JJ nearly always, and with no cards on flop above T, he's never folding here.
 
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Yep but the fact that's its 3-bet means a lot of the time a decent player should be folding 88-JJ here lots.
 
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Very true, but even his fold to c-bet stats is more encouraging than the stats that the CO is playing. Dos'nt change that I never c-bet here :)
 
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BelgoSuisse said:
Really? A player with 8% PFR raises UTG+1 and flats a 3bet. This is 88-JJ nearly always, and with no cards on flop above T, he's never folding here.
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His range is way wider than 88-JJ, especially if ice has been 3-betting light with any real frequency.
 
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My 3bet is usually 5 to 7% ... not sure what it was at this table ... it was REAL late last night :)
 
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BelgoSuisse said:
24/8 is not a decent player.
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Sample size? As played I would be checking this flop. Your kind of trapped in the middle between someone that appears to be raising a tight range from utg and a player that hardly ever folds to cbets as of right now. I suppose you could c-bet and represent AA or KK here, but I don't think it's an ideal situation to do it overall.
 
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