$50nl AK oop

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Villain is 46/6 over 125 hands and he's only got 70bb's. Is this standard shove here? If not how do play it here, call min 3-bet? If he was 100bb's deep would you play it differently?


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SB: $16.38
BB: $109.58
UTG: $50
Hero (MP): $49.19
CO: $49.75
BTN: $36.81

UTG posts $0.50
Pre-Flop: K
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A
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dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG checks, Hero raises to $2.50, CO folds, BTN raises to $5, 3 folds, Hero raises to $38, BTN calls $31.81 and is All-In
 
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Is this a 6-max table, or just a 10 man ring that's short on players?

Also, I'm not so sure about this being a standard shove, and I would definately raise this to $17 before shoving if villain had a full stack.

His min repop just seems so fishy, and he's a fishy player. His preflop raising range is pretty small, so I'd have to give him credit for a pretty small range. I'm not so sure that this is a standard shove. However, we're not too keen on playing a flop OOP against a short stack either.

I don't think there's any good answer to this one. I don't think Villain shows up with AQ enough times to make us real happy. You're getting 1.3:1 on your shove as played. Assuming he's calling with a liberal range of AK & TT+, I still don't think this is a very profitable play.

I'd probably go the weak route and just call his min-raise. I hate getting all in with AK preflop.
 
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My bad, this is 6max table.

He's a 46/6 so I don't think his range is quite as tight as you suggest, I would put it more like TT+, KQ+, AJ+.

With your range of AK, TT+, pokerstove calculates me at 40/60 to win.

My range TT+ KQ, AJ+, it's more like 49/51.

Maybe I'm way out with my range here.

Generally though I think my AK play is terrible, I'm either overly aggro with it or I end up playing it really weak. I hate this hand with a passion. I have looked in PT and I win 0.4bb/hand with AKo and 0.3bb/hand with AKs, which is down in about 14th place in bb/hands.

But how do you guys play AK? I know it's villain dependant etc etc, but generally how do you play it, Aggro, Passive?

I think the way I'm looking at it is just to treat it as basically I would with any non paired starting hand and to stop thinking of it as a major premium hand. I get too attached to it on missed flops etc and certainly over aggro pf.
 
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AK is just Ace high preflop and you really want to see a flop with this. With the stats you have on villian and the ranges he may have, you could put him on a high hand like AA/KK/QQ with his bet of 10xBB and just call.
 
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But how do you guys play AK? I know it's villain dependant etc etc, but generally how do you play it, Aggro, Passive?

The power of AK is Fold equity. I like to play it aggressively PF and on the flop, and then bail out after that if I miss. Obviously if the guy is a phone booth, then you have no FE, and you'll have to alter the play to be more passive. No need to bloat the pot with Ace high if the guy won't fold.
 
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My bad, this is 6max table.

He's a 46/6 so I don't think his range is quite as tight as you suggest, I would put it more like TT+, KQ+, AJ+.

With your range of AK, TT+, pokerstove calculates me at 40/60 to win.

My range TT+ KQ, AJ+, it's more like 49/51.

Maybe I'm way out with my range here.

Generally though I think my AK play is terrible, I'm either overly aggro with it or I end up playing it really weak. I hate this hand with a passion. I have looked in PT and I win 0.4bb/hand with AKo and 0.3bb/hand with AKs, which is down in about 14th place in bb/hands.

But how do you guys play AK? I know it's villain dependant etc etc, but generally how do you play it, Aggro, Passive?

I think the way I'm looking at it is just to treat it as basically I would with any non paired starting hand and to stop thinking of it as a major premium hand. I get too attached to it on missed flops etc and certainly over aggro pf.
AK is pretty easy to play because it's a hand that plays itself on most flops.

You want to be aggressive with it pre-flop -- re-raise to isolate a raiser, pot the flop if you have limpers in front of you ...

You'll c-bet dry flop textures such as Q 7 3, etc.

Avoid c-betting at bluffable boards such as flops containing Jacks or Tens since many opponents play those hands. Also don't c-bet flops with low and coordinated cards.

I dunno ... you'll figure it out through experience. That's just my $
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I dont mind a 4-bet shove here with AK, the problem with just cold calling his 3-bet is your not going to get paid off if a A or K come unless he hits set or has KK or AA. So I see as cold calling the 3bet is pretty bad to be honest. I think you need to 4bet shove here or fold and against a player you described I think folding this hand is really bad and you should be looking to get value from someone with AQ - or take a coinflip against a underpair.
 
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