[50nl 6max] Whole Hand here ... want analysis of play.

I have the whole hand here but not the results because I'd like to know if you liked the way I played this hand. The villain is a LAG(?) 40/21/2 over 53 hands with a 57% fold to flop bet.

Stacks:
CO with $42.50
BTN with $40.80
SB (HERO) with $53.55
BB with $62.80
UTG with $64.75
MP with $98.60

Dealt to SB:A♣ K♠

Preflop:
1 players fold.
MP calls [$0.50]
2 players fold.
Hero raises $2 to $2.50
1 players fold.
MP calls [$2]
Total folds this street: 4
Potsize: $5.5

Flop: 7♠ 8♣ J♣

Hero bets [$3.50]
MP calls [$3.50]
Potsize: $12.5

My Flop Thinking: Standard Cbet OOP. Turn: A♠
Hero: checks
MP: checks
Potsize: $12.5

My Turn Thinking: I Hit my TPTK. I had talked to another player that said a great maximizer of value in this situation is a check. I've squeezed, cbet, and now checked and it looks really weak. This should set up a nice payoff at the river while another bet here probably makes him fold.
River: 9♦
Hero bets [$7]
MP calls [$7]

My River Thinking: I'm putting in my value bet now absolutely believing that he'll call it where on the turn he would not. I'd put him on KJ or QJ or even something like AJ but wasn't completely sure.

pf I raise more being oop with a limper, prob $3-$3.5

Flop has terrible texture and I think just giving up is an option too.

Turn should always be a bet. I'd like to hear the reasoning of whoever spoke to you about why checking the turn is good. There are a ton of draws, draws+pairs and naked pairs that will call you. BET!

River is a shitty card as it fills tons of two pair/straight hands as well as possibly scare one pair hands out of calling. I don't see the value in betting this big.

Why didn't you bet your ace on the turn ????
I mean you missed the flop, c-bet and he flat calls..
He called with something ?????
at the river you have no way of knowing where you are.
My guess is you walked into 2 pr. or a set.
If you won with TPTK I would be surprised.

So who won ???

Yeah I figured I've put bad practice of good advice with this hand, so lets not blame anyone but me for this. So bad PF raise, no cbet was probably the best move here. River bet was bad too with the 9...

dweezel said:

So who won ???

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What are these results of which you speak?

Oh, and BET THE TURN!!!!

+ what chuck said, cuz he's way more eloquent than I. Although, I'm not sure I like raising more out of position. I think we get the same fold equity with a $2.00-$2.50 raise that we do with $3.50. So you're just making the pot bigger when you're OOP. But there's a lot of debate about that going around anyways.

I think your read is correct: QJ/KJ. Read this as he (or she?) has something, but not confident and so calling only to minimize potential losses. I think your flop cbet was correct, but maybe you needed to bet the turn to get more information and make him pay and not give him the odds to see the river and hit the flush draw. If your read is correct, then I think your play OK (projecting weakness to pick up the value bet on the river), but again, if he was drawing fo rhte flush, then you lucked out.

PF - Fine, I personally like the raise size

Flop - C-bet is fine

Turn - Bet it for sure, 3/4 pot or so ($9)

River - I think I like a check call here

What everyone else said on other actions from me, but the river has to surely be a check/call since i can't see any worse hands paying off our bet on the river, whereas a few hands may bet it that we beat if we check it

Already been said but I'll chime in too...

CBet on flop is... ok I guess. I actually don't mind a check here sometimes though given board texture (it's bad for you). You aren't giving up by checking though against an opponent this loose you are trying to control pot size. This flop hits a whole lot of villain's range.

On the turn, you have to bet that ace because 1) he will call with lots worse, 2) there are lots of draws that he could have you are giving a free card too (Bad idea)

I prefer a check-call on this river as that 9 is an awful card. Lots of random T's in his range.



I also think JQ/JK is at the upper end of his range here and it's quite likely has significantly worse. The way he's played it I doubt he has 2 pair, unless he's scared of the straight. I think there is almost no chance he has AJ because he didn't bet the ace either. I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see something like 55/66 or 2 clubs with a pair either.

You are out of position in this situation. I thing that in situations like this have no use to make Cbet. In my oppinion on the flop you should check/rase.

But he show weakness when he check on the turn. I thing he has a drowing hand. I thing you make a value bet on the river.

To end this ... the villain had AA on this hand (I know, weird).

icemonkey9 said:

To end this ... the villain had AA on this hand (I know, weird).

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Great result for you, then. Only loosing 13bb with AK vs AA when the 4th A hits the board is huge.

He slow played aces............ wow
well feel good knowing you saved some $$$$ on that hand and he lost $$$$$

Don't you want to slap people that slow play aces .

NH

dweezel said:

Don't you want to slap people that slow play aces .

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Not if it lets you suck out on them

icemonkey9 said:

To end this ... the villain had AA on this hand (I know, weird).

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LOL! I was getting ready to throttle you for checking the turn and giving him a free card with no less than 2 straight draws and 2 flush draws on board ... until I saw that he played this worse than you did. LOL!