[50NL 6max] TPTK on Paired board vs strange villain reraise

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Villain is 34/28/3 over 35 hands, seems like an overaggressive donk, but his line here is strange

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pokerstars GAME #16606126836: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/04/09 - 15:26:20 (ET)
Table 'Nemausa III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: TiltLikeMe ($66.50 in chips)
Seat 3: chckssc ($43.30 in chips)
Seat 4: medfak ($47.30 in chips)
Seat 5: bw07507 ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Scotch14 ($90.85 in chips)
chckssc: posts small blind $0.25
medfak: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bw07507 [As Qd]
YES. GO has returned
bw07507: raises $1.50 to $2
Scotch14: folds
TiltLikeMe has timed out
TiltLikeMe: folds
TiltLikeMe is sitting out
TiltLikeMe has returned
chckssc: calls $1.75
medfak: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [6d 6s Qh]
chckssc: bets $2
medfak: calls $2
bw07507: raises $5 to $7
chckssc: folds
medfak: raises $10 to $17
bw07507:
 
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As much as I want to say that there's no way we can fold this, I do think his line looks exactly like a 6. He can also be doing this with Qx as well though so I'm not sure I can get away from it here...bah, completely on the fence here, tbh I don't know what to do :/
 
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This is indeed gross. Not sure I like the raise on the flop, since there are no draws, and only a King will scare you on the turn.

And if you describe villain as an over-aggro donk, his line raises my eyebrows. This could be 88 or a weaker queen thats decided to test you after you raised him. But I think we'll see a 6 here often enough as well.

I'm with Chuck that I'm not sure what to do. In this situation, I'd probably lean towards fold, since calling this bet pretty much pot commits you, and I'm not too excited about stacking off with just top 2. But in reality, I'd probably flip a coin.
 
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As you say, and his stats suggest he is overly aggro. His line is strange, he probably sees you as being aggro too. I'm inclined to get it in here against this type of villain, I think he probably does this with Qx, 77-TT, if he turns over a 6 well that sucks.
 
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You don't think the fact that he just called, and then re-raised is a bit fishy? Seems like he was slow playing until you presented the opportunity to stack off. If he was going to make a move for the pot with a mediocre hand, why not do it immediately after the 2$ bet?
 
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His line is strange, but he could be repping anything here. Or he could just like his Q. I dunno, Folding here just seems indredably weak imo (or soulread :p). I'm not a great fan of calling here, as it's gonna lead to more difficult decisions ( + I'm not the greatest post flop player ). I doubt he's gonna chk/chk turn and river. So I really don't like a fold or call, so I think pushing here is fine.
 
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I fold here, although I don't really like the flop raise. As played this looks exactly like a 6 or QQ. He didn't want to raise the initial bet to chase away action, he wanted you to call behind. As soon as you raised he hoped you had a hand you'd play for stacks. I don't play 6max, but I'd fold this here. Obviously a slow-played hand, it's just a question of whether he'd slowplay KQ or QJ here. How much of an overaggro donk is he?
 
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I fold here, although I don't really like the flop raise. As played this looks exactly like a 6 or QQ. He didn't want to raise the initial bet to chase away action, he wanted you to call behind. As soon as you raised he hoped you had a hand you'd play for stacks. I don't play 6max, but I'd fold this here. Obviously a slow-played hand, it's just a question of whether he'd slowplay KQ or QJ here. How much of an overaggro donk is he?

He's a 34/28/3, I'm not sure he has QQ here.
 
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i say one of two options only.. fold or shove..
 
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Well, my thought process was that really the only hands with a 6 here that he could have are A6 and 66, but he probably keeps slowplaying 66. I think, given his stats that he is reraising QQ, KK, and AA here. I could maybe see him making this move with 77-JJ but it is sort of a strange line. Maybe he doesnt believe that I actually have a hand and is trying to get me to fold now in case another over to his pair comes on the turn/river.

I figured that if I shove this, Im folding out anything that I have beat and folding out 77-JJ and other Qx type hands, so I decided that I was going to get my stack in on this one, but I wasnt going to shove on the flop. Given that he was so aggro I knew he would bet the turn and pot commit himself so I thought it would be better to get it in on the turn as I am still stacking him with anything that he beats, but now I am also taking his stack with hands that I beat instead of just folding him out with a shove on the river. I didnt process all of that in my head during the hand, but thats now what I think after, lol. Anyways, heres the rest of the hand.

*** TURN *** [6d 6s Qh] [7c]
medfak: bets $28.30 and is all-in
bw07507: calls $28.30
*** RIVER *** [6d 6s Qh 7c] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
medfak: shows [8s 8c] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
bw07507: shows [As Qd] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
bw07507 collected $96.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $98.60 | Rake $2
Board [6d 6s Qh 7c 4h]
Seat 2: TiltLikeMe (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: chckssc (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: medfak (big blind) showed [8s 8c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 5: bw07507 showed [As Qd] and won ($96.60) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 6: Scotch14 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Yeah, if you're not going to fold, then just smooth calling and letting him shove the turn is certainly the better line. Very nicely analyzed.

I suppose going with your read, especially if its a good one is the best move here, since this decision could probably go either way against an unknown. Honestly, I probably would've folded against a villain taking that line on the flop.
 
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one shouldnt be results oriented but u made a nice play here and took down a nice pot.. well played imo
 
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