50NL 6 max line check in 3 bet pot.

joos

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Villain is 21/11/1 over 30 hand sample. How do you like my line here? I would love to get it in on the flop i think but as played can i check the turn?

party poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP: $35.30 (70.6 bb)
CO: $19.90 (39.8 bb)
BTN: $49.25 (98.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
BB: $52.10 (104.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with Q
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A
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MP folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN raises to $2, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($13) 9
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2
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T
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(2 players)
Hero bets $9.50, BTN calls $9.50

Turn: ($32) 6
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(2 players)
Hero bets $34.75 and is all-in, BTN calls $33.75 and is all-in

River: ($99.50) J
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(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $99.50 pot ($2 rake)
 
Jagsti

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I'll start this reply again, as I misread it the 1st time :(.

Villain is basically an unknown based on stats, but hasn't really shown a great deal of aggro. I like 3 bet pf. CB is fine but I prefer CRAI here. As played, I don't see what were trying to fold out here that called our 3bet and CB. Check behind on the turn.
 
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Check bombing turns our hand face up. I'd prefer to take a check/bomb line against nits, and that's about it.

I don't mind playing it this way. We're getting 2:1 on our shove, and we have enough equity/fold equity to make it profitable. However, if villain is a decent player, I think we have very little fold equity on this turn. But then again, we don't need much...

I'd 3-bet to 8-9$ since you're OOP...
 
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I'd 3-bet to 8-9$ since you're OOP...

I know most of the time we like to get more money in the pot out of position but I think betting $9 would fold out lots of hands that are in the bottom of his 3 bet calling range which we are getting value from. After all I dont think I am 3 betting light here but 3 betting for value. I dont know if that makes sense or not. We basicly manipulate his range towards hands that beat us.
 
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CRAI flop is good, but we have to a) have shown CRAI with big hands in the past and b) we have to know he'll bet like most of his range here.

As played I think it's fine too. I 3bet bigger pf (not quite $9, prob $7-8), but that's it. Being oop there's nothing else to do but shove the turn and hope he'll fold AT or JJ with no draw, or whatever. If we have position I'll consider checking behind.
 
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I don't really like crai on this board. A villain this passive probably won't even bet the flop here. A crai on this flop is absolutely turning your hand face up. At higher stakes where you get more history more range balancing and more multilevel thinking, then a crai might be fine. But here a crai will typically be viewed as a draw almost always. I really don't think you are going to convince many nl50 players that you are crai this flop with a set or made flush. So any hands you fold out by crai you'll probably fold out by cbetting. Anyways, as turn is a total brick, unless you think villain is inclined to try and float you from in position i don't see why you think you have fold equity here so i'd just c/f turn.
 
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Actually now that i reread this you probably have better equity than i thought seeing as you have 2 overs which might be live. Still a check on the turn, but not necessarily a c/f depending on villain's bet size (and villain might very well check behind) and depending on villain's preflop range (fold to 3B% and ats) and villain's range after the flop (so basically is villain stacking off with a marginal hand like JT or jj here, against which you still have some equity. The problem is you aren't likely to get paid off by a whole lot of hands once the 4 to a flush hits unless villain has the J/Q/Kd so it isn't like you have implied odds.
 
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