$50 PL O 6-max: Thoughts on river fold. Yes, it was the second nuts.

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Villain is unknown, only 1 orbit at the table and this is the first time he has shown aggression post flop. The other villain over values a lot of hands. I call the turn with the intention of calling a small bet on the river/ folding if the board pairs etc. My reasoning for folding is that most villains (competent) will not be betting J high flushes or worse on this river or they would bet a lot smaller. Granted, my hand is underrepped a ton but I just do not see someone betting pot here with a lot of weak flushes.

Am I stupid? BTW, before someone says something about preflop, the UTG raiser was raising close to every hand and the table is fairly loose.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

UTG ($50)
CrackerAssFantastic (MP) ($88.10)
CO ($77.80)
Button ($141.15)
SB ($10.50)
BB ($50)

Preflop: CrackerAssFantastic is MP with 10
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, Q
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, 5
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, J
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UTG bets $1.75, CrackerAssFantastic calls $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($8.75) 4
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, 2
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, 3
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(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CrackerAssFantastic checks, Button checks

Turn: ($8.75) A
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(5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $8.75, 1 fold, CrackerAssFantastic calls $8.75, Button calls $8.75, 1 fold

River: ($35) 6
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(3 players)
BB bets $35, CrackerAssFantastic folds, 1 fold

Total pot: $35 | Rake: $1.75
 
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good fold imo, as you say it's hard to imagine pot turn/pot river being anything other than the nut flush without a read on Villain being pretty gutsy or fishy.
 
c9h13no3

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You have a straight flush IMO.

Doesn't it become more difficult for him to have a flush the more flush cards that come out? There's only 6 clubs left in the deck...

However, in the brief period I played PLO8, villains always had the nuts when they were hitting the bet pot button, so folding can't be far bad.
 
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Fold preflop. Yea you're double suited but neither is nut and you have a hanger (the 5) which totally kills your hand for big straight draws

As far as river goes, when BB pots into 2 opponents he has the K high flush or a naked Kc. Calling down 2 pot bets with non nut flushes is generally a recipe for disaster in PLO. Fold. If he bluffed you fine -- that's the strength of the naked nut bluff and why it's so effective

Edit: I'm assuming villains at this level to be competent. I don't play this low though, so if typically people will bet non nut flushes in this fashion at these stakes then we can profitably call
 
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