$50 NLO 6-max: 50plo zoom, call shove OTR w AA when nothing gets there?

JCgrind

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thoughts? i could raise flop but its pretty meh vs 2 villains i think... not that id know cos i suck at plo.

poker stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2196383
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Hero (BTN): $157.56
SB: $110.41
BB: $52.73
UTG: $243.39
MP: $47.22
CO: $75.22

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A
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A
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K
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UTG raises to $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.25) 2
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7
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3
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(3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, UTG folds

Turn: ($14.25) J
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MP bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

River: ($35.25) 9
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MP bets $30.72 all in, Hero ????????
 
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in hindsight, i think i probably shouldve tried to stack the flop to gii vs worse pair + FD hands. agree disagree?
 
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I suck at Omaha too but here goes...

River is definitely a fold, one pair is no good there imo

Flop looks good for a raise and gii as sets seem unlikely there, I mean, do people really play many hands with low PP's much? I wouldn't think so.

3b pre could've been good.
 
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I also suck at plo lol, but why don't we raise it pre-flop?
 
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We have position preflop, we should 3 bet this 100% of the time especially since its looking to be multi way pot.

As played. I do raise the flop cause against sets we have like 40%, Against 2 pair type hands we are flipping and basically favourite against everything else. So we can get it in.
 
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always 3-bet this pre OTB; you should be 3-betting quite a few hands OTB (although not necessarily vs. an UTG open). Raise flop. As played river is a clear fold without pretty strong read.
 
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i dont 3b pre for a combination of reasons...
1. bc everyone expects you to w AA, and you literally win a stack every time you make a set if you dont 3ball.
2. i kind of get 3bing ranges i think, but im not good enough to play 3b pots on a ton of boards, which kinda leaves me 3bing aces only which is incredibly obvious and exploitable, so pretty much just dont unless someones already opened and got a hundred calls so i can pot it up big.
3. too many times have i 3bet good AAxx, seen what appears to be a good flop despite it not giving me any other hands, bet and been raised and have no idea whether to shove or fold.
 
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JCgrind said:
i dont 3b pre for a combination of reasons...
1. bc everyone expects you to w AA, and you literally win a stack every time you make a set if you dont 3ball. No you dont win a stack ever if you dont 3 bet it. Secondly they wont expect AAxx if you 3 bet more than just AAxx
2. i kind of get 3bing ranges i think, but im not good enough to play 3b pots on a ton of boards, which kinda leaves me 3bing aces only which is incredibly obvious and exploitable, so pretty much just dont unless someones already opened and got a hundred calls so i can pot it up big.Then start 3 betting more rundowns and 4 high cards, connected double suited hands etc, balance your range so its not only AA
3. too many times have i 3bet good AAxx, seen what appears to be a good flop despite it not giving me any other hands, bet and been raised and have no idea whether to shove or fold.
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Like the excuse your'e giving to not 3 betting AA is the exact reason you should be 3 betting it. Just because your uncomfortable means you should try to work it out. Its such a common situation in PLO that you need to sort it out.
 
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JC, here's a starting guide for you
1. 3-bet all AAxx OTB
2. 3-bet any decent AAxx in position
3. Flat all but premium (AAXXds) in the blinds
4. Open limp AAxx UTG
5. 3-bet a ton of hands OTB, starting with hands that crush flops that suck for AAxx.

you'll get more money going in pre with AA, and still have plenty of disguised top sets on Axx flops, and tons of equity on boards that people will suspect you merely have AAxx.
 
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please dont advocate open limping
 
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