Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse
That makes no sense. If you 3bet those specific hands, you 3bet them for value because you expect to get called by worse. And then you have no reason to get sick when villain calls.
If the point of your 3bet is almost exclusively to get villain to fold, you should 3bet 72o and keep AQ, KQ and 99 in your flatting range.
I'm pretty new to Poker but aside from hitting a set with a 9 what kind of flop could you be happy with with against someone who flatted 3bets OOP? (Assuming it's a decent player)? Are you bluffing an Ace high flop? Also with AQ & KQ if you hit you could have kicker problems or be against a set.
I work very hard to try to avoid cold calling raises preflop and am more and more resistant to even calling a 3rd bet with equity (In other words I either 4bet/ shove AA/KK or fold). At first I would call on the button with small pp's/ scs/ weak suited Aces but it seemed like a big leak, esp when I got some of the flop but not alot so I stopped doing it. For a while I then mixed up some 3bet bluffs with suited connectors on the button, especially in multiway pots and actually hit a few monsters but overall that seemed like a leak too. Then I got to a point when I was flatting AA-JJ on the button if there was a raise and no callers but the times I stacked an opp with AA I would have got their money anyway because they had KK or QQ and probably would have 4bet or flat called my raise. So now I really try to play raise/ fold preflop. Maybe eventually I'll advance beyond that thinking but for now it makes decisions simpler. When OOP I 3bet with AA-JJ, AK. When IP I might add AQs, AJs, TT. Also I learned that playing AK from the blinds in a raised multiway pot is suicide. In fact without any pot equity I would fold QQ in a pot that was raised and re-raised before the action got to me.
I am trying to plug the leaks in my game, for 30k hands I lost about $ 130, largely because I was in the habit of shoving with nut flush draws or 4 bet/ shoving with QQ and sometimes JJ and not knowing when TPTK was beat. I have been playing break even to slightly plus poker for a little over 5k hands now and it seems like my natural tendency is to play tighter and tighter. (I now fold TT UTG most of the time.). The one thing that still really stings me at 5nl is the amount of calling stations with wildly high VPIPs who open limp, call off any raise and then hit monsters. Nothing like going to a river showdown vs a guy with 70 VP/ 5 PFR who is holding Aces or me deciding to play AJs hard against a 35/25 guy who actually had AK. I still haven't worked that out aside from the fact that when there is a limper in front I no longer will raise with the bottom of my range for that position (Say ATo from the button) as there is way too much slowplaying and limp/ re-raising going on.
Anyway not trying to hijack so enough for now.