Originally Posted by F Paulsson
Can you explain your rationale for overbetshoving the turn? What range do you put him on for flatting a 4bet OOP and then check/calling a K-Q-6 rainbow flop? How much of that range is calling $50 but folding to $95?
I just figure most ABC tags will assume that people will bluff if it doesn't cost them their stack, but when you ship the whole thing in, you mean business. And in my experience, overbets get a lot of respect.
I fully expect him to peel me off with middle pair/weak kings/JJ/maybe AJ type hands, and I think I can fold out most of his range. I think some of those kings would certainly call for a normal 2/3 pot sized bet, and then convince themselves they're committed on the river.
4-bet flatting range: AT+, 88+, KJ+. Like I said, he calls a lot out position, and so I figure he'll keep doing that even when the pot has been 4-bet.
I think a mistake you make when you analyze hands FP is that you assume people play logically the way you play, but they don't. In fact, often if we're table selecting right, most of them don't play that way at all.