$50 NLHE Heads-up: getting 4-bet HU with AK

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Oponnent plays 51/45/11 ,
what's the best thing ot do here with AK? try to get it in or just flat and see how I flop?

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SB ($50.80)
Hero (BB) ($64.93)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K
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SB bets $1.25, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $10,
 
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lol at his stats. What's the sample on this nit btw.

Oh and get it in.
 
BvBrMTW

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around 100,
So yeah He's a friggin nit that's why I doubted whether I should get it in htere, I guess I should always get AK in pre HU?
 
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around 100,
So yeah He's a friggin nit that's why I doubted whether I should get it in htere, I guess I should always get AK in pre HU?
There's almost never "always" in poker. But yeah, AK is a good hand.

Stop playing heads up, I doubt you are good enough. Plus it doesn't help early on when your game is developing to keep switching games.
 
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There's almost never "always" in poker. But yeah, AK is a good hand.

Stop playing heads up, I doubt you are good enough. Plus it doesn't help early on when your game is developing to keep switching games.

That.

But dropping down in stakes to experiment or blow off steam is never a bad idea.
 
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Oponnent plays 51/45/11 ,
VPIP/PFR shouldn't even be on your HU HUD because your OOP defend is a completely different dynamic from your button open.

Definitely don't get it in here. I need to know his button open and 4bet to know definitively what to do, but HU a 4bet is immediately hugely polarized, so if a nit is 4betting you you have to seriously consider that he could have AA/KK and you could be dead in the water. I probably flat and reassess on the flop.
 
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VPIP/PFR shouldn't even be on your HU HUD because your OOP defend is a completely different dynamic from your button open.

Definitely don't get it in here. I need to know his button open and 4bet to know definitively what to do, but HU a 4bet is immediately hugely polarized, so if a nit is 4betting you you have to seriously consider that he could have AA/KK and you could be dead in the water. I probably flat and reassess on the flop.

Sorry, but are you insane???
 
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Sorry, but are you insane???

Haha, anyway I agree with dropping down stakes if you are switching formats, when I play HU I play $1.5 sng's to blow off steam and because I suck at them.
 
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But seriously, guys, consider his range here. We have no 4bet stats for this guy, but given this guy's stats peg him as a ridiculous scared nit it's somewhat reasonable to assume it's no greater than 10% and probably more like 4-5%, which means it's literally just TT+/AKs -- a range that clearly has us behind, and that he's 4betting only because he's comfortable getting it in with. Like, even when we hold blockers AA/KK is still a good 1/4 of that range and we're flipping vs else, and if he found a hand he can 4bet he's not gonna fold it.

Given all this, are you guys honestly gonna tell me with a straight face that it's a good move to jam $46 into a $14 pot? Honestly I'd not just flat -- I'd be slightly tempted to fold flop if I don't spike an Ace. I'd actually be scared of a King since it makes him more likely to hold AA.

Regarding HUD comment: VPIP/PFR is an average of so many different situations with so many different dynamics it's only useful as a way to get a quick and dirty, stereotyped view of somebody's style of play and not really as a way to get specific reads. It has basically no use HU because IP and OOP dynamics are so far apart that the average of the two tels you jack shit -- you need to actually know Villain's IP steal/OOP defend stats separately (for instance, as a standard I tend to defend about 60% of hands vs minraise and 25% vs 3x, but I open about 80% of buttons -- my general HU VPIP/PFR can't tell you that though, because it just says my VPIP/PFR is 70/63).

Besides, why are we even considering risking our stack in a spot that's slightly over breakeven at the best of times when we're playing a goldmine? With somebody who defends that tight it's immediately profitable to just minraise every button and fold to any aggression.
 
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Nah, he's never folding so we actually have some good equity if we spike an Ace otf. other flops are either c/c reevaluate turn or just c/f.
 
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Actually I'd specifically probably call it down for showdown value if I spike an Ace or a King, or if I miss but villain bets 1/2 pot or less. Fold otherwise.
 
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How much have you been 3-betting, especially recently? Even nits are going to change their range based on current flow.
 
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I don't know a thing about playing HU but I'd be shocked if this isn't a snap shove.
 
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It normally would be, but vs this kind of nit we almost certainly don't wanna 5bet jam without QQ+
 
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There is some terrible advice itt.
 
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ignore everyone else and get it allin here regardless of villain stats when its the SB that opens and you are in the BB. Trust me, you will find many worse aces here, its profitable.
 
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ignore everyone else and get it allin here regardless of villain stats when its the SB that opens and you are in the BB.
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...I give up. Go ahead and lose your stack to KK if that's your heart's desire.
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