$50 NLHE Heads-up: flopped nut str8 in aggro dynamic - best line on turn

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$50 NL HE Heads-up: flopped nut str8 in aggro dynamic - best line on turn

The game at this point is only 26 hands long.
It's been pretty aggro so far, he's 3bet 30% i nthat sample, some of them min 3bets, sometimes he pots the flop, I haven't figured out with what yet, no showdown.

The first time I c/r 3x and he insta shoved, the 2nd time I c/r 3x on Q57, he flats and bets half pot to my check on the Q turn.

So how do I continue now ? Do I bet, if so how much ? If I bet like $20 into $33 I only have $15 behind and he basically has no room to push cause im always committed, also it would've been the first time I continue on the turn and that screams strength as well. What line do I take to guarantee his stack in my pockets ?

BB: $70.70 (141.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $53 (106 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Q:diamond: J:diamond:
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($5) 8:spade: 9:diamond: T:club: (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $10

Turn: ($35) 6:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?
 
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so u just pot it ?
what do you think he calls with if i do
 
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bet a scared 10$ bet, looks kinda weak and he may be of the oppinion that he will have fe if he shoves
 
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Well you asked what guarantees his stack, I think pushing is the best way to get his straights, possible 2prs, and sets if he checked as a trap, or pairs+draws (J10, J9, etc..) if he ends up not believing you.

I think it's also very possible that this guy doesn't have very much at all and it's gonna be hard/impossible to get his stack. He may have flatted your reraise wanting to see the turn and take it away but the 6 makes him scared of the straight (or he could have just flatted your reraise as a f*ck you! I don't back down!)...so the hands just over for him, not sure you'll get any more money out of him.

I guess I look at it as he's checking to slow down and get out of the hand, or he has something and it trying to get you to bet... so why not just bet it all?
 
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i like betting a tiny amount like $10, for the purposes of setting up a river shove and allowing him to bluff/semibluff/whatever with hands such as 2 pair, complete air, a straight, or some A+ derriere
 
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i like both $10 and potting, don't know which is better ?
 
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$10 is better because there are no bad river cards, and he's infinitely more likely to call $10 than full pot
 
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$10 is better because there are no bad river cards, and he's infinitely more likely to call $10 than full pot

I don't mind the $10 bet, and like the logic behind it as well. He's been pretty aggressive (almost looks a tad wreckless), so it's very possible he's got close to nothing... especially in a heads-up game, so we should give him the chance to bluff.

But, I'm not sure I agree with "no bad river cards." Aren't Q's and J's possible split pots or even less likey but possibly a win for villain (KJx?), and yeah he might have played it a little differently, but if the board pairs we could be in trouble. Or were you talking about only if he bluffs by coming over the top?

Just looking for clarification.
 
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I don't mind the $10 bet, and like the logic behind it as well. He's been pretty aggressive (almost looks a tad wreckless), so it's very possible he's got close to nothing... especially in a heads-up game, so we should give him the chance to bluff.

But, I'm not sure I agree with "no bad river cards." Aren't Q's and J's possible split pots or even less likey but possibly a win for villain (KJx?), and yeah he might have played it a little differently, but if the board pairs we could be in trouble. Or were you talking about only if he bluffs by coming over the top?

Just looking for clarification.

i'm talking about cards that make our hand no longer the best hand, assuming he calls the turn. yeah, we will chop sometimes, etc, but in terms of having to protect our hand, he really has like 0 outs to beat our hand, pretty much
 
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there are only 4 other Q and J's left so im really not worried about that
same for pairing the board, its possible, but not likely, and even less likely he's got a set here.
 
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there are only 4 other Q and J's left so im really not worried about that
same for pairing the board, its possible, but not likely, and even less likely he's got a set here.

there are 6
 
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betting 5 is cooler than 10, more likely to get bombed over and leaves a pot size shove for river
 
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betting 5 is cooler than 10, more likely to get bombed over and leaves a pot size shove for river

we don't want a pot size shove on the river, we want to installment plan his ass each street so a call on the river is even more appealing than that when he has 2 pair or an overpair or something

10-15 is good
 
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well i said 5 with the intention a shove over a 5 bet is more likely, but leaves us with a pot size shove if called, i think its clear gay betting to induce is best line, i just feel really small is cooler
 
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all the cool people are in this thread :eek:
but i think we've discussed everything, thanks :heart:
 
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we don't want a pot size shove on the river, we want to installment plan his ass each street so a call on the river is even more appealing than that when he has 2 pair or an overpair or something

10-15 is good

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