Originally Posted by Zybomb
We have enough implied odds combined w pot odds to call here. We're getting almost 2.5:1 with a hand we are a little than 3:1 to improve with. I think we'll overcome the difference here with implied odds enough to make calling +EV here (particularly with position)
And sure we should of bet bigger on the flop... but $10 into an 8? Like are we trying to not get value with THE NUTS just bc there are draws out there? Are we Cbetting over the pot on boards like these? Just standard 6.50 or so is fine, so we don't polarize our range and so that our meta image is fine when we are cbetting these type of boards
What? There are 10 outs to improve to a FH, that's 44/10 = 4.4:1 hand equity. So you need to make $66 when calling a $15 bet just to break even.
The pot is $36.50 and villain has 29 behind, so the MAX you can win after calling $15 is $65.50. It's simply not getting there.
It's probably close and not an awful fold because MP1 may call as well (he could shove too, which sucks for us), but also being a family pot some outs are probably gone, since people love to play connectors, suited or not
I had to laugh at the bolded part. Made my day. Sorry but what in god's name are you talking about? Are you just pulling stuff out of some poker book / article without thinking about it? Meta game at 50nl 6 max is so stupid to do in itself, but then you talk about not polarizing.
What is there to polarize? Are you ever bluffing
in a 5-way pot when the board comes with flush and straight draws? Anyone who ever thinks what your range is like knows you're never bluffing there so might as well bet it big. You think they'll make a note "Hero overbet the pot on a very wet board 5-way with the nuts" so next time this situation comes up in about 3 months time he'll know if you bet 1/2 the pot you have air.
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