$50 NLHE Full Ring: Squeeze flatted multiway!

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MP is a lol reg - 20/14 folds to 3bets only 39%, 24% raise first in from MP 4k sample

CO is a fish, only 20 hands on him but running at 42/13

squeeze is for value then spew on this flop! My thinking is to just bet/fold this flop as they can both have weaker stuff in their range, especially the fish but I'm wondering on sizing, I kinda want to bet big for value but this also smashes their ranges.

poker stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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MP1: $36.29 (72.6 bb)
MP2: $82.95 (165.9 bb)
MP3: $67.94 (135.9 bb)
CO: $40 (80 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $52.22 (104.4 bb)
BB: $10.98 (22 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
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CO posts BB OOP, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $1.20, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.70, BTN folds, Hero raises to $5.50, BB folds, MP2 calls $4.30, CO calls $4.30

Flop: ($17) 8
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9
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J
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Hero ?
 
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Im happy stacking vs the CO and maybe the original MP guy depending on how you think he plays. Hmm villain dependant but if he's the type who isn't just gonna raise sets here then why are you so worried about getting it in?

I'd bet $14-17 and stack mostly. Cut-off especially is gonna have tons of shit we're crushing.
 
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Im happy stacking vs the CO and maybe the original MP guy depending on how you think he plays. Hmm villain dependant but if he's the type who isn't just gonna raise sets here then why are you so worried about getting it in?

I'd bet $14-17 and stack mostly. Cut-off especially is gonna have tons of shit we're crushing.

that board smashes his flatting range, raising here would probs be a set or a made hand or big draw with MP left to act aswell, I dont even know if he would raise kings or aces here MP, im stacking vs CO as hes a tard fo sure.
 
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is it standard to stack these kinda flops?

I normally bet/fold as well since its like sets/2 pairs/massive draws/combo draws.

I wanna bet like $11-13, probably stack vs the CO..

lol regs.
 
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If the stakes were a little smaller, I would be pushing on the flop. With $50+ at stake, I'm not really sure what to do. I would probably throw in a nice sized $10 bet so see where he's at with the flop.
 
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I think off the top of my head you're gonna be priced in against his range when you bet the flop and he shoves or whatever, thats why i bet stack i think. Not sure 100% but i think it'll be close when you see how much money is invested. You even know yourself that he calls far too many 3bets, looks like the easiest bet/stack ever now.
 
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Why would you bet a ton smaller than your usual c-bet on a super drawy board where we're likely crushing these guys and can easily set up stacks for shoves on the turn vs the shorter fish?
 
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Underbetting should be standard on these types of boards with this type of hand.

There's no way in hell we're crushing 2 people with 1 pair on J98 two-tone and I wouldn't be thrilled to get stacks in. When your equity edge is never going to be great when called but checking is a total disaster, underbetting makes a lot of sense.
 
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I think the most common thing that will happen is the reg will fold and the fish will call with any pair + draw, or ship the same. Then we can either call or put him in on the turn. If you wanna fold when you get raised by the MP then atleast bet bigger on the flop so you can maximise value vs the drooler.
 
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I'm more worried about the drooler having 40-80% equity here tbh.
 
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I'm more worried about the drooler having 40-80% equity here tbh.

that seems silly when he's gonna call with a ton of worse things, rarely he will have something like a set that we still have outs against, a lot of pair and draws which we're probs ahead of and a lot of pairs he just wont fold and be priced in on the river and will call off on brick turns cause he has tp or a pair and an oesd or whatever.
 
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This seems like a tough spot, but I think the most likeky hands villians are going to have that hit this flop are hands like JT, QJ, AJ etc.. Some possibillity of a set or 2p, but I would tend to stack off here against opponents as described.
 
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I think if MP jams its a fold, i like betting 14 or so as MP will fold a bunch and the drooler will have a piece of the board often so almost ignoring him.
I now know MP calls 3bets IP a tonne with small pairs and Axs
 
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