re: Poker & $50 NLHE Full Ring: Plan was to barrel... fire the third?
Originally Posted by bgomez89
Wouldn't getting called by other over cards be good for us(unless it's obv by aq/AK)?
From this streets perspective yes. From the entire hands perspective no.
If we see a showdown great we value towned Ace high. We're unlikely to though and will be turning our hand into a bluff (our showdown value is now irrelevant) when we barrel the turn or risk getting knocked off our hand by check/folding.
You could say it gets us more fold equity which in general is one of the main reasons we barrel the turn. Sure having a few combos of AT/AJ would be nice for our fold equity but they're not guaranteed to be there we may get calls from QT/QJ/JT/KQ/KT/KJ/K9/AdTd etc not to mention the already existent threat of 9x/TT/JJ/QQ/55-88.
It's a tricky situation because the very cards we barrel are the cards that hit overcards well in one way or another.
Not to mention when we're not barreling we can expect to be bluffed off the best hand a lot of the time.
If the board was lower so the various inside straights are not possible and the number of overcards that may miss are extended we face the annoyance of having them call again when their cards remain overcards.
Suddenly rather than commiting a small $3 c-bet to knock off overcards we are commiting half our stack in order to remove them from the $4 pot in which the fishes very wide value call range will be making money from us.
Bluffing low boards is usually a multi street commitment, one I do not like to make vs fish. Why risk $20 trying to bluff a fish when we can often check it down and either catch up vs the hands we may have previously paid off or take the pot down with the best hand (all but one unpaired hand atm). Sure we will be bluffed off the best hand sometimes but who cares, we make our money from raising AJ hitting toppair and value towning players like this. Not by bluffing half our stack away on ace high.