$50 NLHE Full Ring: KK Flop Raise vs Aggro LAG (messed up, advice needed)

$50 NL HE Full Ring: KK Flop Raise vs Aggro LAG (messed up, advice needed)

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 18/10/14

Flop Line Check and turn line.

I think this maybe a bad flop to Cbet as its a good flop to 3bet bluff IP (I think)

I think I totally messed this hand up by then calling his re raise. Could somebody please tell me how to play this hand.

poker stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $101.30 (202.6 bb)
MP1: $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $92.50 (185 bb)
MP3: $53.50 (107 bb)
CO: $69.25 (138.5 bb)
BTN: $15.10 (30.2 bb)
SB: $25 (50 bb)
BB: $66.30 (132.6 bb)
Hero (UTG): $146.15 (292.3 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with K:club: K:diamond:
Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, MP3 calls $2, 4 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 3:spade: 9:heart: 3:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP3 raises to $8, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($20.75) 4:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $12, Hero??

You play this hand for stacks. Other than the flush draw that board hits NOTHING. He's way too aggressive for his own good so I actually like calling his flop raise (he's raising because he knows this board completely missed your range), checking to him on the turn, and then jamming over his turn bet.

WVHillbilly said:

You play this hand for stacks. Other than the flush draw that board hits NOTHING. He's way too aggressive for his own good so I actually like calling his flop raise (he's raising because he knows this board completely missed your range), checking to him on the turn, and then jamming over his turn bet.

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AF of 14, is that over a decent sample? He's helping you get the money in when you absolutely want to. WVHillbilly's advice is great. Call the flop raise, an aggressive villain like this will fire again when you check the turn, and c/r all in.

tbh guys this is a hand where I think im a nit and just assuming he has a set and let it go. I wish I could snap out of this shite because I could be winning so much more.

Does everybody think we're playing for stacks here ?

Jurn8 said:

tbh guys this is a hand where I think im a nit and just assuming he has a set and let it go. I wish I could snap out of this shite because I could be winning so much more.

Does everybody think we're playing for stacks here ?

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You can NOT give this guy credit for a set. If his agg factor was .01 maybe but if you let this aggtard push you off an overpair here I hope you left the table right after this hand because you're getting owned.

I just sighed because I know that im weak postflop and do get owned OOP with this sort of hand. I mean I have to do some work on that, or Im just going to get pwned at 50nl+.

meh the more I look at the stats etc I realise I just got OWNED !!!

flop aggression is 12
turn aggression is inf
hasnt been to river yet

over 115 hands

There are only 4 ways he could have a set. If you think he'll play TT and JJ the same way up until this point, that's THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY than a set.

You're playing for stacks. Just calling the flop and check/raising the turn is a good line. 3-betting the flop could work too, if you make it small enough so that he can try to outlevel you by shoving his air.

You didn't actually fold did you?

WV thats why I said I got owned.

Vanq put it well in another thread, Basically Im giving villians too much credit and think they always have a set or something better than I do and im just throwing money down the drain by not being aggro enough in these sort of spots

WyldeRhoadsDime said:

Shane Warne

Also Shannon Elizabeth > Jen Tilly
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WyldeRhoadsDime said:

hahahahaha

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inb4ban

I like your line up to this point (i haven't read other comments yet btw)

villain is repping a SUPER narrow range...basically he's repping 99, 3x and flush draws. MAYBE an overpair like TT/JJ. Maybe A9 too.

Basically this flop never hits him. I really like your line to this point as it is going to induce all sorts of action from this dude...

if that 14 AF is over any kind of semi decent sample I'm jamming over his turn bet allllll day long!

he's gnna fold a lot and probably call with significantly worse (good chance he calls you with TT or a flush draw that is no longer getting odds)

If you call and he shows up with 99 (or the random 3), well... that's variance for ya. He's going to show up with a hand worse than yours i'd wager 90% of the time or more.

ship it!

cool that dude just like full on copy and pasted me

as for this hand, I think calling flop and crai on turn is cool, as is min 4 betting flop and causing a spaz shove

switch0723 said:

as for this hand, I think calling flop and crai on turn is cool, as is min 3 betting flop and causing a spaz shove

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FYP

Why do all you guys have such a hard time counting?

WyldeRhoadsDime said:

Shane Warne

Also Shannon Elizabeth > Jen Tilly
__________________
This is our decision, to live fast and die young, we've got the vision, now let's have some fun.

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WyldeRhoadsDime said:

hahahahaha

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instaban

how do we report for ban

would this be the same with JJ??

Jurn8 said:

instaban

how do we report for ban

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The little icon in the top right corner of his post.

But alas, he's gone.

thanks FP

*walks in late*

It's pretty much all been said above - I'd be playing this one for stacks, no way can we be giving villain credit for a hand that beats us often enough to fold.

push back! He doesnt have the best odds of getting a flush on the river if thats what he is waiting for. Knowing he is a LAG player just push all in and collect the pot