$50 NLHE Full Ring: Good fold or knit move?

begley01

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$50 NL HE Full Ring: Good fold or knit move?

Stacks:
UTG with $50.00
UTG+1 with $42.55
MP1 with $66.75
MP2 with $32.60
MP3 with $20.85
CO with $11.00
BTN with $42.80
SB with $50.25
BB with $47.05



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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BTN:3♥ 3♠
Sklansky group 7
Preflop:
UTG raises $1.50 to $2
5 players fold.
Hero calls [$2]
2 players folded.
Total folds this street: 7
Potsize: $4.75
Flop:
7♣ 9♣ Q♥
UTG: checks
Hero: checks
Potsize: $4.75
Turn:
3♣
UTG bets [$3.50]
2 players fold.
Hero calls [$3.50]
Potsize: $11.75
River:
9♦
UTG bets [$44.50] [ all-in ]
1 players fold.
Uncalled bet ($44.50) returned to UTG
UTG collected $11.20 from pot
Total folds this street: 1

VP:8 / PR 4 / 00

Was this a really good fold or bad fold to the nut flush/over pair? I was little suspicious on flop with him checking and knowing his UTG raising range so very tight. The shove on the river was also strange with their being relatively little in the pot. Thoughts appreciated, thanks.
 
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His bet on the turn would seem to indicate that he had the flush, or was at least presenting as such. Though pocket 7s or Qs would also be within reason given the pre-flop raise.

From his view you quite possibly had nothing -- your flop hit nothing. Simply calling on the turn may have given him the wrong idea. In his position I'd suspect you have a high pocket pair of sorts, or maybe an over pair. Possibly a raise there could have prevented the all-in manoeuvre? The call may have told him you have the flush as well, thus the all-in might mean he has the As.

I doubt the all-in was a steal attempt. I've seen many people do this before with great hands with the hopes that somebody calls -- it happens often enough to be worthwhile. I'm not convinced he had a full house though and suspect he had a flush.
 
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:eek:

If you plan on folding full houses, i strongly suggest that you fold preflop, because there's no way set mining can be profitable when you fold when you miss and also fold when you hit.
 
begley01

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You guys are probably right. With the weird bets and the way I ran at the casino this week, I just had a bad feeling he slow played the set of queens. But it retrospect I showed no strength so he would probably not bet a top full house like this.
 
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You guys are probably right. With the weird bets and the way I ran at the casino this week, I just had a bad feeling he slow played the set of queens. But it retrospect I showed no strength so he would probably not bet a top full house like this.

it doesnt matter if he did or not the point is when your in this situation getting your money in is always a no brainer. there are gonna be times where you get coolered but more often then not your best.

dont play scared!
 
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Also, bet flop and raise turn, please.
 
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Player dependent, I don't know about NL50 but I play nl100 and I don't see to many fullring regs shoving 90 bbs into a 20 bb pot on a paired board with a flush. I'd probably have a hard time laying this down to an unknown, but if this guy is a Reg, this REALLY smells like QQ or 77 hoping you're a dink that will call with a flush.

6 max might be different but full ring this rarely a bluff and I don't see a fr reg. shoving a full stack into a small pot with a flush here. From a reg this almost always going to be a boat IMHO and you don't beat any boats.
 
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my question is why not bet the flop with position to see where your at? With a flat call I would raise the turn.(If he raises either spot, I drop it) He probably just calls there with a set of Q's or 7's against a board flush. All in on river is stinky though I'd probably call, but that's the biggest reason my ring game stinks, I wouldn't give credit for bigger boat
 
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