Originally Posted by IPlay
Pretty poorly played hand and I can't figure out why we are happy with making top pair in a 3 bet pot with A10o. How is this a good thing?
What worse hand is calling a pot sized bet on the turn? Even better what worse hand calls that turn bet and then bets river with ZERO fold equity?
Pretty easy fold pre and on river and this hand was misplayed on every single street.
Thanks I felt like I played it poorly when looking over it, although given villain I saw potential while I was in the hand Spoiler below indicates at least a hint of what he was working with. But I realized he put me in a tricky spot with A10 and turns out I likely had him crushed. I like your feedback and it gives me pause to consider carefully the actions of villain but at same time I'm wondering if you're giving V way too much credit here. Which I think is a mistake a lot of us make. I've folded AQ on an A high safe board to a big 3-4bet live because I expect AK and it's like Axo. Overall I could have avoided any doubt by folding pre.
Originally Posted by nkat
well, c/f now. Pf, fine. Flop, c/c, as played.. turn c/f
Thanks. I think you're right on turn I should have check/folded. The outcome says otherwise but yes in the moment a turn c/f was probably better option because he then squeezes me on river.
Originally Posted by Beanfacekilla
I feel like a broken record. Raise pre is fine, but we should raise more than 3x, raise 4 or 5x.
Fold to 3b. That's as far as this hand should go.
And why are you donking into V on the flop? Don't do that. If you did anything, C/C or C/R. However, this is not a good spot postflop. You are dominated so often.
Fold pre, C/C flop as played.
Did I say fold pre? Fold pre.
Originally Posted by TimovieMan
Raise more preflop. With 3 limpers, make it 6x.
A limp-reraise is often going to be KK+. Just fold to the 3-bet and be done with it.
Don't donk the flop. You allow villain to play perfectly.
Check/call and re-evaluate on the turn, instead.
As played, fold the river. His range is pretty much AK/KK/AA.
Yeah I usually fold A10o pre in most cases to a raise because I know often we're facing a PP or AJ-AA and if an ace drops I'm stuck with a tougher decision. Maybe because I'm usually at 25NL online I wasn't aware that PFR should be more in line with live 1/2 raises at 50NL+ rather than standard 3x. I'll def adjust next time I take a shot at 50 NL and see if bigger PFR weed out some of the limpers. I should know this given how live play you can bet like 8x pre and still get 4 limps lol.
I probably should have gotten out of the hand pre to the 3 bet but interestingly villian did not have AK, KK, AA.
Spoiler: I fold to the river squeeze bet after a tank. Villian exposes one card hole card: 4h. I say I figured you limped with something like 4h5h and looked for the st8 on flop and flush on turn. He says "whew" and "no, i 3 bet you preflop." Whether I believe him or not is another thing but I believe looking back over the hand he had Ah4h and had I called him down I would have won. Lesson learned: should have either bet more initially pre or folded pre to his aggression. Because I've been in this spot before and it's rarely AA or KK, rather it's usually something like AQ or some crappy set or face card/x 2p.
Thanks and I welcome any more feedback. It's def good to get other perspectives and remind me to not get into tricky spots with hands like A10o.