john003
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Silver Level
$50 NLHE Full Ring: 50NL Live Home Game 8 Handed: Was my move on the flop correct?
Hello!
After a long hiatus, I am back at poker. This time around, I'm exclusively live play due to the state of online poker with the US. Currently at $400ish of my goal of $1000 to take to the track (woohoo!).
I'm currently trying to build a roll for the dog track, so I'm padding it out via home games. I attend a 50NL home game on Tuesday nights and organized a 50NL home game at my friends house for Friday nights, so I'm "partial host" (my chips and table).
Halfway through the night, most of the table is loose passive. I would never call with this hand preflop in this position with so many to act behind, but the table has been passive and I knew I wouldn't get a raise and get to see a cheap multiway flop. Stacks are approximations due to live play. Also, a min raise at this game has been established as a "fun way to juice up the pot" and people are enjoying seeing a flop for $1.
50NL Home Game - 8 Hand
Hero: $165 is dealt
UTG $80: Raises 50c to $1
UTG+1 $120: Calls $1
MP1 Hero $165: Calls $1
MP2: Folds
MP3 $90: Calls $1
BTN $80: Calls $1
SB $120: Calls 75c
BB $60: Calls 50c
Pot: $7
Flop:
SB: Bets $5
BB: Folds
UTG: Folds
UTG+1: Raises $5 to $10
Hero: ???
So, forget preflop. I already explained the how and why we got here; passive home game.
The SB is a friend of mine whom I've played extensively with. He is that guy constantly betting/poking/bluffing at pots because that's the "thrill" of poker for him. I know his $5 bet likely means nothing. UTG+1 is an acquaintance of mine. Very new to poker and this is my first time playing with him. Before this, his only poker experience is playing at his friends change home game.
At this point, I raised it $15 to $25 total. In my mind, I needed to figure out where I stood in the hand. I personally think calling here is a weak play, but playing K7s we made our trips so obviously we have some type of vested interest in this hand. I also want to chase out/charge anyone chasing a straight or flush should I have the best hand.
The rest of the action goes as follows:
Hero: Raises $15 to $25
MP3: Raises $25 to $50
BTN: Folds
SB: Folds
BB: Folds
UTG+1: Calls $40
Hero: ???
MP3 is another friend of mine that is experienced in tournament play but not a student of the game by any means. For some reason, due to him paying me off 3 weeks prior holding top pair, good kicker to my middle set, he's determined to win a hand against me. His raise I'm not overly concerned about because I've noticed he's developed a habit of betting any nut draw on the flop.
UTG+1 just smooth calling is exactly why I put in the raise I did. I would've happily reraised MP3 all in but UTG+1 smooth calling $40 more after all this action is ringing alarm bells in my head. I fold my trips.
Pot: $137
Turn:
UTG+1: Checks
MP3: Checks
River:
Final board:
UTG+1: Bets $40, putting MP3 all in.
MP3: Snap calls all in.
UTG+1 shows for a full house.
MP3 shows for two pair.
UTG+1 wins pot of $217.
At this point I'm really patting myself on the back and recognize I got out of the hand pretty cheaply all things considered. Years ago, I'd have jammed it all in on the flop and been called by a better hand and hoping for a 3 outer. A different player/friend at the table after the game said he would've just called but if I'd have just called, I still don't quite know where I am in the hand and could've been facing more bets on the turn and river.
Was my raise on the flop the right move?
Hello!
After a long hiatus, I am back at poker. This time around, I'm exclusively live play due to the state of online poker with the US. Currently at $400ish of my goal of $1000 to take to the track (woohoo!).
I'm currently trying to build a roll for the dog track, so I'm padding it out via home games. I attend a 50NL home game on Tuesday nights and organized a 50NL home game at my friends house for Friday nights, so I'm "partial host" (my chips and table).
Halfway through the night, most of the table is loose passive. I would never call with this hand preflop in this position with so many to act behind, but the table has been passive and I knew I wouldn't get a raise and get to see a cheap multiway flop. Stacks are approximations due to live play. Also, a min raise at this game has been established as a "fun way to juice up the pot" and people are enjoying seeing a flop for $1.
50NL Home Game - 8 Hand
Hero: $165 is dealt
UTG $80: Raises 50c to $1
UTG+1 $120: Calls $1
MP1 Hero $165: Calls $1
MP2: Folds
MP3 $90: Calls $1
BTN $80: Calls $1
SB $120: Calls 75c
BB $60: Calls 50c
Pot: $7
Flop:
SB: Bets $5
BB: Folds
UTG: Folds
UTG+1: Raises $5 to $10
Hero: ???
So, forget preflop. I already explained the how and why we got here; passive home game.
The SB is a friend of mine whom I've played extensively with. He is that guy constantly betting/poking/bluffing at pots because that's the "thrill" of poker for him. I know his $5 bet likely means nothing. UTG+1 is an acquaintance of mine. Very new to poker and this is my first time playing with him. Before this, his only poker experience is playing at his friends change home game.
At this point, I raised it $15 to $25 total. In my mind, I needed to figure out where I stood in the hand. I personally think calling here is a weak play, but playing K7s we made our trips so obviously we have some type of vested interest in this hand. I also want to chase out/charge anyone chasing a straight or flush should I have the best hand.
The rest of the action goes as follows:
Hero: Raises $15 to $25
MP3: Raises $25 to $50
BTN: Folds
SB: Folds
BB: Folds
UTG+1: Calls $40
Hero: ???
MP3 is another friend of mine that is experienced in tournament play but not a student of the game by any means. For some reason, due to him paying me off 3 weeks prior holding top pair, good kicker to my middle set, he's determined to win a hand against me. His raise I'm not overly concerned about because I've noticed he's developed a habit of betting any nut draw on the flop.
UTG+1 just smooth calling is exactly why I put in the raise I did. I would've happily reraised MP3 all in but UTG+1 smooth calling $40 more after all this action is ringing alarm bells in my head. I fold my trips.
Pot: $137
Turn:
UTG+1: Checks
MP3: Checks
River:
Final board:
UTG+1: Bets $40, putting MP3 all in.
MP3: Snap calls all in.
UTG+1 shows for a full house.
MP3 shows for two pair.
UTG+1 wins pot of $217.
At this point I'm really patting myself on the back and recognize I got out of the hand pretty cheaply all things considered. Years ago, I'd have jammed it all in on the flop and been called by a better hand and hoping for a 3 outer. A different player/friend at the table after the game said he would've just called but if I'd have just called, I still don't quite know where I am in the hand and could've been facing more bets on the turn and river.
Was my raise on the flop the right move?