$50 NLHE Full Ring: $ : 50NL FR: JJ Facing Huge Reraise On Low Board

$50 NL HE Full Ring: $ : 50NL FR: JJ Facing Huge Reraise On Low Board

Villian is 22/12. What should I do?

Full Tilt Poker Game #12959802297: Table Chip (deep) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:28:14 ET - 2009/06/22
Seat 1: SammyG77 ($51.30)
Seat 2: BigSkipbowski ($115.15)
Seat 3: ipwnfish ($58.30)
Seat 4: Larry_Hmm ($103.05)
Seat 5: RussiaN Ace 13 ($57)
Seat 6: drofbacon ($43.85)
Seat 7: allegiance ($98)
Seat 8: Enos Burdett ($66.60)
Seat 9: tropicalpunch ($56.15)
allegiance posts the small blind of $0.25
Enos Burdett posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RussiaN Ace 13 [Jh Jc]
SammyG77 folds
BigSkipbowski folds
ipwnfish raises to $1.75
Larry_Hmm folds
RussiaN Ace 13 has 15 seconds left to act
RussiaN Ace 13 raises to $4.55
drofbacon folds
allegiance folds
Enos Burdett folds
ipwnfish calls $2.80
*** FLOP *** [2h 5s 6h]
ipwnfish checks
RussiaN Ace 13 bets $6.75
ipwnfish has 15 seconds left to act
ipwnfish raises to $26
RussiaN Ace 13 ?????

maybe put him on AKs of hearts?

almost gotta shove unless you feel you have him read so well that you feel he could have a higher pp.

hell he could have 10's or 9's and feels he has you beat

I'll post results later, just want to know what you guys think about this.

It really depends on the type of player this guy is. If he's the type of person that values a hole pair, regardless of size, then the PF raise means he might have a low pair and hit a 3 of a kind. I'd place this guy on overcards and the flush draw though as the PF raise likely means royals in the hand. I'm with Patty on this one, I'd go over the top...

It would be nice if we knew more information about your opponent. What was his style leading up to this? So I'll have to assume no reads.

Well, you have JJ, one of the hardest hands to play. Your opponent raised a little over 3x from MP, so you have to give him credit for somewhat of a hand, if you have no reads on him. I'm assume you re-raised to isolate, however, I'm not sure I like doing that with JJ. If we re-raise and he calls and a few overs flop, then what are we going to do??

So he does call and we have a pretty safe board for JJ, all low, but there is a flush draw and a straight draw out there. He checks, you C bet, and we can assume we are betting for value here. Then he comes over the top with almost a $20.00 re-raise, which is about pot size at this point. So now we are kinda like WTF??? LOL. So again, with no reads we are kinda in a spot here. We only have a pair and we kinda wanted to keep the pot small. Did he raise in MP and hit a set?, he could be on a flush draw with tow overs, or he smooth called us with a higher pp. 10 10 or 99 could also be in his range.

So again with no reads, what does our opponent think about us? What have we shown him. How often have we re-raised preflop?? What did we re-raise with when we did?? Did we go to showdown and show a hand we re-raised with? Our opponent could assume we missed the flop with two overs and is now putting the pressure on us, with his 10 10, because he doesn't really want an over to show up on the turn or river. Or he could have us beat here with a higher pp. So we are way ahead or way behind, which is a small pot situation. The only problem is our stack size and the fact that we will be pot committed if we call. So we are not calling here. We are either folding or shoving all in. Part of me says that with the size of the bet, it feels like a bluff or a semi-bluff. The other part of me says we have only invested $11.30 in the pot. We don't have any reads on this player, so it's time to fold and wait for a better spot.

So with the information provided I'm going to save some money and fold here.

as you have no doubt noticed, this is a huge re-raise. so what hands does one make huge re-raises with? mostly it is either the nuts (but those hands he may choose to play a little more slowly, so i think they are less likely), or the drawing hands of the type Ax of hearts (where x can be either K, 5, or less likely Q/4/3 imho)

if he has a higher pocket pair and did not 4-bet preflop, then i say more power to him and ship my stack. can't really tell from the 22/12 stats, but... i don't think so. do you have any information on how often he check-raises the flop?

all in all, unless there has been something in your history with this player where you called his large bets down somewhat light (so that he would think he can get paid after such a large raise), i say push here. this smells of a semi-bluff and as TriggaLos mentioned, you can't just call...

waiting for the results tomorrow
(edit) perhaps i should mention that i like risks

Well I ended up shoving him all in, as I just couldn't see myself folding to his stats and he ends up having Pocket 5s, a set. I don't luckbox the turn or the river and lose a buy in =(

one way or another...you are behind and were probably behind preflop as well...most likely to Aces or Kings, play Jacks the same way you would play smaller pairs...if you miss the set on the flop and face aggression, min most cases its probably a good idea to GTFO


gl to you
wooter

A lot of these huge raises imo are marginal hands that they think are good now but scared of a turn/river. I think he takes this line with 77-TT all day. Even if we say he could have flatted QQ+ preflop we still have a call:

Board: 2h 5s 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.394% 46.82% 01.57% 24103 810.00 { JcJh }
Hand 1: 51.606% 50.03% 01.57% 25757 810.00 { 55+, 22 }


Just ship it in imo. Most of the time I think you're ahead because I think a more realistic range is:

Board: 2h 5s 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.998% 65.99% 02.01% 22213 675.00 { JcJh }
Hand 1: 32.002% 30.00% 02.01% 10097 675.00 { JJ-55, 22 }

Give soms stats about your vallain...

I would put him here on a flushdraw with maybe a bellybuster or he hit a set