$50 NLHE Full Ring: [50 NL FR] AK: to stack or not to stack (preflop)

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$50 NL HE Full Ring: [50 NL FR] AK: to stack or not to stack (preflop)

Here's the situation, sorry no formal hand history...

But the general question has been talked about before I know, I'm just wonder what the thoughts are in this situation. If your answer is yes, stack it (or at least 3b with the intention of stacking), why? If no, what conditions if any would change your mind?

In the situation at hand I have a suspicion that the villain is a maniac or at least very bad but I don't have enough hands to conclusively prove it. Here's the situation.

I have 20 hands on the villain. In that span, he has flatted 2 3bets oop and has 3 bet himself 2 more times. He seems very aggressive and is running along the lines of 28/18 or so over 20 hands.

The one hand that got to showdown, he flats a 3b from MP with AQo, and stacks off on an AK4 rainbow. (so we know he will stack down TP/Good Kicker)


So... we are dealt AKs in the BB.

Villain is on the BTN and there is another 70/5 loose passive type in the HJ. All involved have 100bb.

HJ limps (as he always does), BTN raises to 4bb and we have AKs in the BB.

I feel like if I 3b that I'm at least getting called and possibly 4b so if I want to 3b I need to know how I'm going to respond to a 4b. If my plan is to fold to the 4b, I'm better off just flatting. If my plan is not to fold then that effectively puts me all in preflop.

The other wildcard is that if I just flat, the 70/5 will most likely come along as well and I'll be oop multiway. I expect the 70/5 to go away to a 3b. Even if the 70/5 folds out I'm still oop.

So... flat it or 3bet it?
 
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3Bet and be willing to get it in. In a button vs blind scenario with an aggressive opponent you have to be willing to stack this here.
 
pedroman7

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I think you have to 3b against these players. Just calling and playing against two loose players with wide hand ranges and oop is going to you put you in a lot of difficult spots post flop. I just 3b to iso the lag and I guess you pretty much have to call a shove(likely a coin flip).
 
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Against the player you described I'm ALWAYS happy getting AIPF with AK. FWIW I'd rather fold than flat here.
 
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3bet and get ready to fold. Personally with unmade hands, even AKs, caution is the operative word. I am not a fan of AIPF at any time except late stage in the money MTT. That doesn't preclude me from doing it, I'm just not comfortable doing it. I'm bluffable, I look for reasons to fold!! There my secret is out!!
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3bet and get ready to fold. Personally with unmade hands, even AKs, caution is the operative word. I am not a fan of AIPF at any time except late stage in the money MTT. That doesn't preclude me from doing it, I'm just not comfortable doing it. I'm bluffable, I look for reasons to fold!! There my secret is out!!
Peace,
FLOW

I dont see how you can 3b/fold when you are getting odds to call or shove a 4b. How often is a player like this showing up with AA or KK here?
 
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