$50 NLHE 6-max: Turned Nuts Facing River Jam Pairing Board vs Unknown

Jurn8

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Dude has just sat down, he doesnt have auto top up on its just gone midnight on a euro site so I assume hes a fish and am never folding as are beaten by like 1 hand

Prima, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BB: $49.50 (99 bb)
UTG: $95.31 (190.6 bb)
MP: $53.89 (107.8 bb)
CO: $37.14 (74.3 bb)
BTN: $83.28 (166.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $51.90 (103.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T
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Q
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4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) J
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A
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3
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Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6) K
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Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

River: ($16) K
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Hero bets $11, BB raises to $41.50 and is all-in, Hero fistpumps
 
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good call man, if he has something weird like K3 so be it, but I am never folding either.
 
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yeah, to elaborate on my previous post, this is BvB, and all sorts of spewy stuff happens in these hands.

-- his combos of sets must be HEAVILY discounted as he is not flatting AA/JJ pre.
-- his boat combos must be similarly discounted cuz no one flats AK BvB either.
-- He's in position so can float with a ton of stuff like KQ/KT.
-- He can have the nut flush draw and backdoor trips.
-- He might recognize the fact that even though your range is largely uncapped, it's still rare for you to have AA/AK yourself and be trying pushing you off a "chop". For that reason I'd be tempted to call with any Ax. Calling a straight for sure.
 
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I reluctantly call.
I'm not fistpumping. It's a rare day when I fistpump a river raise.
KJ/JJ/33 beat us. None of them are locks to play this way. They make up 12combos.

I honestly think this is really close, we're completely reliant on this not topping up = fish read. We're hoping for an overvalued Kx hand or maybe even AJ from some of the grade A retards.
Seeing as we're getting better than 2 to 1 odds, and we're BvB vs an unknown who may be a fish I call. It is very close his range isn't that thin and I'm completely open to being convinced to fold.
 
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I wouldn't fist pump, but I would call 100%, because they pull this shit with Kx without realising things like relative hand strength and your calling range etc. Sometimes he'll have KJ (maybe even 33), but not often enough to fold here imo.
 
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sets definitely raise flop or turn, so many action killing turns and rivers
 
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Fook it I fold!
I have the feelings that's what I'd have said if I hadn't read the unanimous fistpump opinions itt. That and I just can't help but be controversial to stir up trouble ;)

KQ/KT makes what 12combos? (same number as the fullhouses) We not only need villains to call a gutshot on a flush draw flop but also be retarded enough to shove the river. I think our main hope if anything are the QT chops were at least the shove is not crazy (yet still needs a gutshot call and is still not a lock shove).

Might run a stoving on this later but I think we can expect around 2 combos of Kx and around 4 QT splits. KJ probably faces the least negation of any hand (I play it the same) and JJ/33 need some heavy negation but someone slowplaying them is certainly more likely than shoving the river with Kx imo.
 
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Most Players main leak is calling too much especially vs postflop raises.
I feel another snake vs mongoose pack moment coming :D
 
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