$50 NLHE 6-max: $ NLHE : Raised on turn in 3 bet pot

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SB: 186.3 BB (VPIP: 22.87, PFR: 18.36, 3Bet Preflop: 4.30, hands: 926)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 19.77, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.10, Hands: 883)
CO: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 15.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.80, Hands: 382)
BTN: 36.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Td Kd
fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10.5 BB, CO calls 8 BB, fold

Flop : (24 BB, 2 players) Kc 8c 2h
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn : (24 BB, 2 players) 4s
Hero bets 12.5 BB, CO raises to 39 BB, Hero calls 26.5 BB

River : (102 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, CO bets 56.9 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 50.5 BB and is all-in


Villain F3B is 80%. I think the turn is a fold here.
 
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Yes you are correct.
 
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I'd rather bet the flop & then check vs. the way you did it. It looks like a much bluffier line.

The line you took kinda screams "I have JJ, please let me get to SD cheap".
 
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I'd rather bet the flop & then check vs. the way you did it. It looks like a much bluffier line.

The line you took kinda screams "I have JJ, please let me get to SD cheap".

That makes sense. How do you play it as played?
 
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I think you played it fine. At think at these stakes, once you check the flop you have to consider your opponent is going to open up his turn bluffing range more than he should. And I like the river c/c because if we're calling turn to pick off his bluffs, we want to continue that line on a missed river (for him).

So I don't see any issue with it. I assume he had 88 though and he played it like a 50nl player would play it (where he shouldn't be checking the flop or raising the turn that often). Or did he have AA and got unlucky?
 
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Thanks. I've been getting pretty beaten up recently so I'm second guessing a lot of decisions.

He had 44. That's why I love C9's point haha.
 
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I would have done two things differently.

Firstly, I wouldn't 3bet KTs preflop. KTs doesn't do well against the cutoffs 3bet calling range. The shortstacked button could raise all-in often in this spot with a range that beats KTs. My advice would be to 3bet preflop with a balanced range consisting of premium hands and suited connectors 45s-JTs and possibly suited one gappers, depending on the table dynamics.

Secondly, I would have continued on the flop. This would get him to fold AQ, AJ, ATs and would get value from JJ, TT, 99. In this particular situation it would have gotten him to fold 44, which is surprising to see in 3bet calling range. Take a note of this. Once you noted that this player has a wide 3bet calling range, remove some bluffs (the suited connectors and one gappers) from your 3betting range against him.
 
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Thanks. I've been getting pretty beaten up recently so I'm second guessing a lot of decisions.

He had 44. That's why I love C9's point haha.


so villain played his hand faceup pretty much

id have bet flop and hope to finish action. I use to and sometimes still do the mistake with 2 pairs on river. its more of a bluff catcher as played. We will only play this ultra aggro when we know our villain cant let go of a strong kx hand and milk em
 
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With the top pair medium kicker I don't mind checking the flop to pot control one of the streets.
However I prefer to bet the flop personally and not give the free card, checking the flop risks giving that free card that is going to hurt you every now and then (and did here) and does encourage the CO to think you can't have much here and to bluff on the turn with a pretty wide range. I mean realistically what do you have here on the turn that doesn't usually cbet the flop and can stand a raise?
Once you do check the flop I think the turn call is mandatory, I would probably raise you here as well on that run out. On the end you are getting good enough odds to call considering how often he just might be bluffing.
 
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