£50 NLHE 6-max: Missed a ton of value here or played it well?

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iPoker - £0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 22.27, PFR: 18.21, 3Bet Preflop: 8.90, hands: 1,285)
BB: 172.18 BB (VPIP: 55.84, PFR: 11.69, 3Bet Preflop: 16.22, Hands: 80)
UTG: 50 BB (VPIP: 21.34, PFR: 18.06, 3Bet Preflop: 10.95, Hands: 810)
MP: 63.3 BB (VPIP: 18.76, PFR: 14.23, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 1,284)
CO: 117.76 BB (VPIP: 27.35, PFR: 19.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.51, Hands: 577)
Hero (BTN): 149.06 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6:diamond: 6:club:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 6:spade: 8:spade: 7:heart:
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 7.5 BB, BB raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 6.5 BB

Turn: (32.5 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
BB bets 22.74 BB, Hero calls 22.74 BB

River: (77.98 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks

BB shows 4:club: 9:club: (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 33%, Flop 25%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows 6:diamond: 6:club: (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 67%, Flop 75%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 74.1 BB


Well I did miss a ton of value here no doubt about it if I had 4 bet the flop it would have been so huge that I won't be stopping after that. Given our opponent I am certain I was in for a double up no way he is folding an open ender given how much he was in love with it. But obviously I could not possibly know what I was up against so do you think I played this fine?

When he bets the turn I had fully made up my mind to fold the river if I don't boat up. So I was not going to pay him off in case he did have a straight.

But considering the sort of opponent we have here would it have been the right play to just consider set vs straight a cooler and ship it on the flop?
 
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I havn't read what you said yet, but honestly you should be betting all rivers unless a T .... Look at our villain seriously we can really just give him absolute no credit for anything. if he wins so be it but we are just so damn hot in this position.

didn't realise our villains hand until after I posted above.
 
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Yeah a little awkward once the 4 comes so keep ramping it up and get as much money as you can in on the flop.
His silly little raises mean very little, you see this sort of thing from aggressive fish like this, he's basically trying to see cards as cheaply as possible whilst still trying to appear aggressive, so he's usually drawing. If he was betting for value he would have made a much bigger flop raise.
Against his actual hand you were a 75% fav on then flop so that has to have been the time to get the money in. Remember even if he has a straight here on the flop you still have a good shot at a boat.
The Q on the end is a lovely brick, you have to just grit your teeth and bet third to half pot, he will pay you off with 2 pair. If he raises fold, he will have the straight.
You have to think about what might pay you off on the end and there are loads of hands in his range here that will. Hes loose enough to have 84 74 64 86 87 67, that is a lot of combos and any 8x might look you up as well.
 
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Vs this opponent GII on the flop is fine he will over value TPTK and go nuts with 2ps aswell as with draws apparently so GII on flop is fine.

Turn plan is good, i would fold to jam too OTR as played, also when he checks river you could consider betting 1/4 or 1/3 for some extra value since he never has a straight when he checks
 
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I would just reraise on the flop, this is a common spot i miss value, in position you probably should be betting a lot of the time.
 
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Vs this opponent GII on the flop is fine he will over value TPTK and go nuts with 2ps aswell as with draws apparently so GII on flop is fine.

Turn plan is good, i would fold to jam too OTR as played, also when he checks river you could consider betting 1/4 or 1/3 for some extra value since he never has a straight when he checks

Pretty much this, against a fish I am getting it in on this flop all day. Also agree with turn plan since this is exactly the player type to show up with 5x here.
 
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If he was betting for value he would have made a much bigger flop raise.
This isn't true for many fish. 1BB donk bet followed by a min 3 bet is usually a monster.

And I didn't raise the river because it could be a trap. I have learned time and time again how much these sort of fish love to trap on the river. I should either 4 bet the flop or play it safe till the end with no boat.



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This isn't true for many fish. 1BB donk bet followed by a min 3 bet is usually a monster.

And I didn't raise the river because it could be a trap. I have learned time and time again how much these sort of fish love to trap on the river. I should either 4 bet the flop or play it safe till the end with no boat.



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I'm fairly certain he's not going to disagree with you (or agree?)... because I'm pretty sure he didn't put alot of thought into his post on this thread... just sayin'..
 
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