$50 NLHE 6-max: KT

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$50 NL HE 6-max: KT

CO: 30/19/26 (200 hands)
Steal from CO= 42%


Full Tilt, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BTN): $55.75 (111.5 bb)
SB: $153.10 (306.2 bb)
BB: $78.75 (157.5 bb)
MP: $30.15 (60.3 bb)
CO: $53.05 (106.1 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with T:heart: K:club:
MP folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) K:diamond: Q:spade: 2:club: (2 players)
CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.25) 5:club: (2 players)
CO bets $5.30, Hero calls $5.30

River: ($19.85) 4:diamond: (2 players)
CO bets $13.50,

Should I have called the turn?
Should I call the river?
 
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This looks like one of those examples out of that SPR book. The whole SPR thing has a lot of merit because of situations like this, where we see a flop with an SPR our opponents won't stack TP off with, right around 13.

But the situation isn't too too bad since we would need a pretty low SPR to stack off here anyway. In fact this is a great spot for a flop raise, I think, especially with villain's 42% CO steal. If we get called we're probably done though, unless the turn action is check/check. A flop raise looks pretty threatening since it sends the message to villain that you're willing to play for stacks (even though you aren't).
 
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fold preflop. Gets u out of this horrible situation. By calling with KT here you're going to flop a ton of 2nd best hands and have no idea where you're at. Just fold it preflop and avoid the situation all together. As played I fold river unless villain is just crazy stupid and barrels everything all the time.

Raising the flop is terrible tbh. You fold out all of the hands that you have beat and he calls/shoves all the hands that have you beat.
 
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Raising the flop is terrible tbh. You fold out all of the hands that you have beat and he calls/shoves all the hands that have you beat.

We raise the flop as a positional bluff. I really see our hand as completely worthless since even bluffs have us beat, as they can barrel us off.

Preflop fold is probably best line though.
 
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Its been only recently I've tried calling wide raises with mediocre hands.
The reasoning i figured was because I'd certainly call with KT if I was defending my BB against the SB.
How would bein on the button alter this at all?
Or should i be folding this BlindvBlind as well?
 
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In a blind vs blind scenario we'll be more likely to defend our KT because we already have money invested, changing our pot odds, plus there is nobody at all to act behind us. However being in a blind vs blind would still leave us with very problematic postflop choices, and I don't think there would be anything wrong with folding there either.

I mean, what are you trying to flop? Are you going to be happy if a T comes? How are you planning this hand? We really just want to play a small pot with it. We could open it for $1.25 with that intent, which would be fine. But against a raise, there isn't much we can do.

Unfortunately by calling down to the river, we've left villain with a range so wide we can't accurately calculate our equity against him.
 
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I think you should fold the turn...a call preflop is not such a bad move,the bet on flop was small,but after the bet on turn is obvious he have a strong hand,and your pair of kings with T kicker is not such a good hand.
Anyway,at river,absolutly fold,no doubt.
 
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its possible he was trying to throw you off your hand with a hand like AQ or something...and since he hit bottom pair he didn think you would have the king.....


but than again he could of had AA KK QQ or even AK or any other pp that hit a set....we reallly dont know....all we can guess from his bets is that we are behind....i like the idea of a flop raise though...its not really a bluff....but like its stated.....if he called you would be done for
 
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hmm tbh ye I probably should have folded the turn.
I figured all he was repping was KQ at the time, forgetting to include AA, AK, KK, QQ into that range.
I'm usually the one doing the raising so I guessed I automaticly took the 3bet sorta hands out his range.

I'll fold the turn in future.
As for the call, verdicts out I guess, but heck its gunna me marginal either way and I cba loosening my game up when i can bearly multitable as it is.
I think I'll call if it was sooted.
 
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