€50 NLHE 6-max: Was it right to 3 bet the flop?

After I 3 bet the flop the MP tanked for a long time before folding. I asked him later what he had and he said A5. I think I missed out on winning a monumentally big hand if I didn't re-raise the bet from the fish.

Although to be realistic even if I just call that sort of a raise it would have send alarms to the MP. I was just too excited to get all the money in from the fish. Would you have done the same thing?

iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 82.52 BB (VPIP: 94.34, PFR: 45.28, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, hands: 55)
SB: 453.56 BB (VPIP: 22.82, PFR: 15.87, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 2,850)
BB: 107.18 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 30.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
Hero (UTG): 214.64 BB
MP: 197.98 BB (VPIP: 30.29, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.92, Hands: 1,323)
CO: 261.8 BB (VPIP: 43.86, PFR: 19.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:diamond:

Hero raises to 2 BB, MP calls 2 BB, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 3 players) J:heart: A:club: A:spade:
Hero bets 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, BTN raises to 40 BB, Hero raises to 84 BB, fold, BTN calls 40.52 BB

Turn: (171.54 BB, 2 players) 4:heart:

River: (171.54 BB, 2 players) 6:heart:

BTN shows K:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 70%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows K:heart: A:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 30%, Flop 99%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 169.02 BB

You should have checked at the flop allowing MP to raise and then re-raise

sujeesh811 said:

You should have checked at the flop allowing MP to raise and then re-raise

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I made a very small bet to represent a scared hand. He didnt raise me as he wanted the fish to bury himself as he was doing every hand.

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I think the real question is why did you min raise Pre UTG with AKo?

come out with 3x or 3.5x raise. But as it played out, I like your 3BB bet into 7.5 trying to represent the scared hand.


The BTN might have not raised you if you bet the flop hard. On whether or not you should have called or shoved, well I think 3betting like you did is fine in a multiway, but I personally would have called to see if MP would call as well.

In this scenario I am very confident with my holding of AKo with no flush draws out there. I am really not worried about someone floating KQ and spiking a T either....so I think a call would have been better, yes, but your shove is still a profitable play.

Just call the Button's enormously large raise. This allows the other guy to come into the hand. He might have folded anyway, but still is good in practice just in case he gets tempted. Once the turn comes check and let the Button lose his stack to you. You can call that again and ship the river if the other guy hangs around.

glemly said:

I think the real question is why did you min raise Pre UTG with AKo?

come out with 3x or 3.5x raise. But as it played out, I like your 3BB bet into 7.5 trying to represent the scared hand.


The BTN might have not raised you if you bet the flop hard. On whether or not you should have called or shoved, well I think 3betting like you did is fine in a multiway, but I personally would have called to see if MP would call as well.

In this scenario I am very confident with my holding of AKo with no flush draws out there. I am really not worried about someone floating KQ and spiking a T either....so I think a call would have been better, yes, but your shove is still a profitable play.

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Because I wanted the BTN to 3 bet me so I'll 4 bet. I am shoving AK pre to this BTN all day long.

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You played the hand very well. I don't see a reason not to raise the villain.

Any better hand will usually raise for value and the sizing will indicate that whereas this raise size should not bother us and considering villain's stack it is an easy shove. So well played.

i wouldnt reraise the flop, just call and get it in on the turn

Yeah you made your hand completely face up on the flop. The fact that MP tanked showed he considered calling even then. If you flat called the fish on the flop MP may have come along. As played you also gave the fish a chance to fold. calling was definitely better as our hand is strong enough in this board to slow play it.

Just call on flop and check/call on turn. On river I would make pot size bet.

if you just call, it's hard for a worse ace to fold.... the raise from the fish is absurdly high, and just calling it can look like mild confusion.

just call, hope the other guy can't get away.. and then... very important: insta-check any turn.

this is less affective against multitablers, but if he's only got 2-4 tables going this might be the only hand he's in the middle of. you want to seem like you might have even misclicked when you called.

the fish already put in half his stack. all his chips are going in the middle this hand.

when it checks to the fish on the turn and he gives up the rest of his chips, take some time to call... type an expletive into chat.

then on any river, time down... hit time bank if you can... type in "you got nothing" and shove.

You played well, But BTN is played really dumb why he 3BB raised for 40? he could reraise like for 16BBs and fold. Why some players goes to the end with KK when comes one or two aces?

If you call on the flop, MP would have call likewise. I just thought you didnt maximize things by MP getting away here.

erlanditas said:

You played well, But BTN is played really dumb why he 3BB raised for 40? he could reraise like for 16BBs and fold. Why some players goes to the end with KK when comes one or two aces?

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Isn't it simply refreshing to know there are still people who think they know about poker willing to sit down and blow off $50. I dread to think how long the waiting list was for this table lol .....
Long live the fish.

Figaroo2 said:

Isn't it simply refreshing to know there are still people who think they know about poker willing to sit down and blow off $50. I dread to think how long the waiting list was for this table lol .....
Long live the fish.

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50 Euros! $56.87! Haha.

Totally, they may as well set fire to it. I can just imagine the regs queuing at this table