$50 NLHE 6-max: In SB with AKo. Is it ever wise to fold here?

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So,
live game .25/.50. No formal stats, but generally a tight game with advanced beginner/intermediate players.

Cannot give everyone's stack size - live game and I am not comfortable taking notes with my buddies.

I was in SB with about 100 BB. Smallest stack was down to 10BB, largest was probably 200BB

I had AK off suit.
UTG raised to 3BB = $1.50
call, call, call to me
So, I am looking at $6.00 pot with AK and at least 3 callers to a raise from UTG.

3 bet? - I know that this might be a good place to raise. Essentially a squeeze and I actually have the goods to back it up. I worry, however, that many will call again and I will be playing a very large pot out of position with multiple opponents. Two out of three times I am going to miss the flop and be left trying to bluff the entire table from poor position. Implied odds if I hit are probably decent, but I will most likely need to have the stones to be all in by the river with just TP/TK, which does not feel very good to me. I am sure that some would shove here. Trouble is, I am pretty confident that nothing will call my pre-flop shove other than high pairs JJ+ - to which I am a roughly 3:2 dog (57:43).

call? - even worse. All of the same problems as above, plus there is no chance that anyone folds to my call - I will more often than not miss the flop, then I am playing OOP with multiple opponents. Basically, most of the time I will end up check/folding and throwing away 3BB.

Fold? - feels a little crazy to fold AK, but allows me to chill out for a hand and avoid a mine field. Given the number of players calling an UTG raise, I am not sure AK is profitable, or at least not reliably so.

Interested to hear what you would do. Is it ever wise to fold AK?
 
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In some situations yes a fold of AK pre is fine. But here you need to raise no question. You have a hand that is just so much better than the ranges of all your opponents so raise for value. Raise big enough you might not get any callers or just one. Then youre in a heads up pot with AK, not a bad spot to be in.
 
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I would say its hard to fold in this position, the only hands that have you dominated are AA and KK....
 
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Never folding.... Re pop to 6 ish dollars. Don't flat either. You don't want to go to this flop 4 handed as bluffing wont work multi way likely, and when you hit it's easy to be beat. You really want one or two opponents in this spot max, thin it down.

Squeezing all day long.
 
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Both 3betting and calling are good and make sense, depending mostly on the original raiser. If he folds then likely others will follow, if not then not.

If you call it is actually easier to play since basically you are pot controlling. If players are not very aggro it will help post flop. If you hit you can just check and call or check raise (depending on the board). If you miss you can still check call once.
 
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Both 3betting and calling are good and make sense, depending mostly on the original raiser. If he folds then likely others will follow, if not then not.

If you call it is actually easier to play since basically you are pot controlling. If players are not very aggro it will help post flop. If you hit you can just check and call or check raise (depending on the board). If you miss you can still check call once.

What about when we see the flop 4 handed.... Hit a king and are behind because there is so many damn people? LOL.

Your advice is logical, but I know I'm not psyched to see a flop OOP with AKo against 3 other players. By squeezing its likely you get some folds. If you get to this flop HU And you miss, c betting is totally fine and you have an extra way to take down a pot when you miss.

If we see it 4 handed, and we miss the flop, then we r screwed.... We leave ourselves without an out... Bluffing multi way at a home game likely won't work. It's true... We lose less when we miss, however we lose far more often.

I think it's pretty marginal but I would lean towards a squeeze.
 
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