$50 NLHE 6-max: Flop the str and have a re-draw, decide to slowplay like a douche

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 21/16/6

Villains stats over 400+ hands. 4% 3 bet

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 124.44 BB
BB: 190.66 BB
UTG: 119.62 BB
CO: 101.5 BB
Hero (BTN): 113.44 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J:club: 9:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: ($10.50, 2 players) T:club: Q:club: K:heart:
SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

Turn: ($24.50, 2 players) K:spade:
SB bets 26 BB, Hero calls 26 BB

River: ($50.50, 2 players) 7:diamond:
SB bets 74.44 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 63.44 BB and is all-in

Should probably fold to the 3 bet, but I thought well Ducky calls these so it must be profitable.

Fold pre, but after calling rest is super standard. Flop call >>>>>>> raise imo and even if he never bluffs river assuming he bets AK with 100% frequency it's still a call. And he's going to have some missed draws he shoves with once in awhile too.

K so I understand why we flat the flop but why the turn?

If his turn range is like TT+, AQs, AKo, then dont we want to raise the turn? or are we just calling because were only getting called by better and folding worse?

sorry to steal ur thunder youregoodmate

I have no thunder after the way I've played tonight.

pocketehs said:

K so I understand why we flat the flop but why the turn?

If his turn range is like TT+, AQs, AKo, then dont we want to raise the turn? or are we just calling because were only getting called by better and folding worse?

sorry to steal ur thunder youregoodmate

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Depends how often we think he bluffs rivers when he misses. If he's the type that gives up a lot then yeah we should probably just shove turn. Actually I think I like shoving turn here in general. I think flatting is better if we're trying to balance but I don't think that's too much of an issue here and I think in a vacuum people don't bluff rivers nearly close to enough when they miss so I think shoving turn is probably best.

Is that the same turn range you put the villain on?

You're running bad if you are losing all these hands mate. Looks OK to me!

Cafeman31 said:

You're running bad if you are losing all these hands mate. Looks OK to me!

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Check out the quads hand and decide if we chould check back the river.

It seems really nitty but Im not sure.

I think its a fold.

only hand he plays like this we beat imo is AK.. its sick but imo its a fold, but then again this is 6max so people spew more.

Having spoken to "9k" about this a little, I'm leaning towards a fold, but it's closeish at least, and really, these hands, while being situations where you're losing your stack, are a little bit coolerish (waits for someone to say how can it be a cooler if hero's calling a 3bet with an implied odds hand). There are many more small and medium pots that when played reasonably well will wipe out these big losses and then some.

OMGITSOVER9K said:

I think its a fold.

only hand he plays like this we beat imo is AK.. its sick but imo its a fold, but then again this is 6max so people spew more.

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Haha yeah me! I obv need to drastically improve my postflop play.

Im gonna start posting a shitload more hands. Maybe reduce the tables I play and concentrate on making good decisions.

How many tables were you playing at once?

Usually 8, I dont think its that actually that is negatively impacting my decisions. With 8 tables you still have plenty of time, I think I just rush my decisions and dont take the time to think it all through.

Late new years resolution. Slow down my decisions and stop button bashing.

Seriously consider only 4 tabling next time you play 50, and yeah, stick to your new year's resolution

youregoodmate said:

Should probably fold to the 3 bet, but I thought well Ducky calls these so it must be profitable.

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The exact reason you shouldn't haha but on a serious note, probably fold or 4b until you have a post flop edge on everyone else.

Personally want to raise the flop, as his range should smash this board and he should want to GII with most of it and fold river as he doesnt have a hand that we beat i dont think

Ducky7 said:

The exact reason you shouldn't haha but on a serious note, probably fold or 4b until you have a post flop edge on everyone else.

Personally want to raise the flop, as his range should smash this board and he should want to GII with most of it and fold river as he doesnt have a hand that we beat i dont think

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Yeah I thought straight after I should have got it in OTF. Not because of the outcome obv, he showed up with AQ so I was squashed anyway. I usually raise the nuts OTF as well, dont know why I didnt on a heavy board like this.

Assume you mean AJ? Surprised to see that in his 3betting range.

you on skype btw? and wow wtf... AQ?

thats it, i'm done. 6max regs are terrible?

Lol sorry I meant AJ.....

also Ducky don't put thoughts into his head, stacking this flop is lol retarded.

yeh not a fan of raising

Haha okay why is stacking bad? We fold out too many of the hands we beat?

nah it aint

**** this... Im taking up tiddlywinks instead