€50 NLHE 6-max: $50 NLHE : Do you call this river overbet?

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iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 192.88 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.35, PFR: 17.67, 3Bet Preflop: 4.34, hands: 27,554)
UTG: 73.68 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 28)
MP: 152.72 BB (VPIP: 24.12, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.02, Hands: 15,539)
CO: 61.34 BB (VPIP: 60.36, PFR: 28.17, 3Bet Preflop: 4.13, Hands: 851)
BTN: 118.24 BB (VPIP: 23.34, PFR: 16.61, 3Bet Preflop: 4.78, Hands: 1,959)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:diamond: A:club:

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, MP calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 4:club: 7:heart: K:spade:
Hero checks, MP bets 10.5 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB

Turn: (42 BB, 2 players) A:heart:
Hero checks, MP bets 27.8 BB, Hero calls 27.8 BB

River: (97.6 BB, 2 players) 9:spade:
Hero checks, MP bets 104.42 BB, Hero Really??
 
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i call, but the flop & turn should be used to try to get it in before the river

it could be sets but the straight/flush draws is what really bothers me
 
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This is an easy slam dunk call bro, your hand is wayyyy underrepped! He probably puts you on QQs or JJs or something like that that he believes he can push you off of with an overbet on the river...sure you might be up against a set sometimes, but that's poker sometimes and you just got to call it off...you're clearly at the top of your range on the flop, turn and river! Easy call and if you lose to a set, then whatever, that's how it goes sometimes
 
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why aren't you betting or checkraising flop and turnand /or leading river for value. ? You have 15k hands on this guy , surely you have some reads about how he plays that you can give us.
 
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why aren't you betting or checkraising flop and turnand /or leading river for value. ? You have 15k hands on this guy , surely you have some reads about how he plays that you can give us.
Yes he folds to most of my Cbets in 3 bet pots so hence I took this line here.
 
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For me is call without think, if he has a better hand I wanna see but a fold here is EV- in the long time.
 
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This is easy fold for me.

Your range highly consists of Ax .... u guys have history so yep its a set at least. He is value betting here.

I think hes not bad enough to dumb bluff ur range
 
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i think you should have taken the lead betting from the start. to check and just call might keep him in but you have given him the advantage. turned a sure thing, or so one would think, into a guessing game.
 
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Interesting spot, you got yourself into this because you never tested him now you are totally guessing.
By taking the line you did you invite bluffs so there will be some bluffs there BUT it isn't a good board to bluff without there being any straights or flushes to rep. It isn't a good idea to try and rep sets, they are hard to hit.

I presume he doesn't call a 3bet preflop with any 2 pair combos other than AK, I don't usually see A7 A9 calling the 3bet. I don't see 99 betting the turn. So our best case scenario is he is overvalueing AQ AJs or we are chopping AK or he is occasionally bluffing some random suited connector.
His turn sizing stinks of value but because you are under repped then AQ could bet like this, but does AQ bet that big on the river? What worse that you 3bet would call that river if it was a value bet? Only AK should really be going that large.
Honestly I don't know, on combo's its really close, Only you will know the answers here, so will this guy call a 3bet this deep in position with 44 77? If yes then I'm folding, if not then I'm calling and hoping to chop or pick off an occasional bluff or overplayed ace.
So anyway, this is a clear case of keeping poker simple. Bet the flop and keep betting your top two pair. If he has AK beaten here you are supposed to lose money.
 
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Most of you don't put AA or KK in the villains hand range.
Is that because he didn't 4 bet preflop?

I'd be scared of 77, maybe 44 if I were the hero. But if it is I guess thats life. I think i'd still call here.
 
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whats his fold to 3bet% pre. set mining in a 3bet pot with 77 and then stacking off on a board with A and K on it, doesn't appear to fit in with this players pre stats unless hero's 3bet% is so wide that he can easily discount AA and KK from hero's range.
 
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