$50 NLHE 6-max: $50 NLHE : 4-max line check with ace high, river line?

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$50 NL HE 6-max: $50 NL HE : 4-max line check with ace high, river line?

Villain is your standard 50NL drooler that plays on the 4-max tables. Stats somewhere around 80/10/25% over ~40 hands.

Comments on my line appreciated, and your thoughts on my river action: Check/Fold, Check/Call, or Check/Raise?


Ultimate Bet, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players

BTN: $59.18 (118.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $134.82 (269.6 bb)
BB: $71.27 (142.5 bb)
CO: $101.85 (203.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J A
CO folds, BTN calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) 6♠ 2♠ T (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $8.75, BTN calls $8.75

River: ($29) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $9.50, Hero ???
 
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I like two barreling here, we've got strong outs and he should have a tough time calling two streets on that board - keeping the pressure on him here makes a lot of sense to me.

ch/r is interesting - 6x, 2x, A high, and miscellaneous pp's are going to have a very tough time calling. A drooler like this I think will sometimes call a ch/r w Tx, JJ, and always w Qx, 2 pr, and sets. There's a good chunk of dead money in the pot - it doesn't need to work that often to show a profit. His bet size being so small is also allowing him to fold to save half his stack (if he'd bet closer to pot, he shouldn't be folding).

ch/c I think is the worst of the three options - a guy this passive (25 is AFq?) is betting for value with something, he's not bluffing a busted fd i don't think (though I wouldn't be surprised by 6x or something equally weird), I think he checks back. The bet size is so small that he doesn't need to be bluffing very often to make a profit here, I just don't think he's bluffing often enough (unless he thinks you're a spewtard?).
 
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Your line is completely fine. I would personally double barrel it myself. Q is a good card to fire second barrel which hits your range pretty good. Since he wont fold anything on the river, after this kind of a bet, hate and fold it
 
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I don't particularly like the turn bet, unless there's some really good thinking behind it, and the reason for that is that I can't tell whether it's for value or as a bluff. I can only assume that it's for value since he's not folding anything better (or would he? with stats like 80/10, even adjusted for 4-max play, I doubt it but I could be wrong), but that's ultra-thin in that case. Any particular thoughts running through your mind on the turn bet size?

The river... Meh, as played I think your general plan should be to check/fold, but when he bets that small I'll be generous and look him up. It's often going to be something stupid like 44 or 86, but then at least we know that small river bets means weak made hands.
 
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I barreled the turn because his fold to flop c-bet was like 0/4, and his fold to turn c-bet was 2/2 or 3/3 or something like that (100%). Not a large sample, I realize, but I figured with that slight read, the turned equity, and the scare card, I had enough to barrel this. I think its too thin for value.
 
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Not a fan of the 2nd barrel here. This opponent type is quite often calling 2barrels with marginal holdings. You'd have to fire 3 to get him off, and if he has the T, he's prolly not folding even then. I prefer checking, and trying to spike a king, ace, or jack, and then trying to get a little more out of him.

A check raise on this river might scare the crap out of him. There aren't very many hands that are more than one pair with this board. I don't think I'd have the stomach to pull that off though. I'd either fire a 3rd barrel, or check/fold.

*Unrelated topic* I had a dream last night that c9 was at a 6max table with me and jammed a flush draw with a pair, hit the flush and beat my set. I'm now taking coolers even in my dreams. :(
 
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** Dealing River ** 3
CEENINE checks
Villain bets [$9.50 USD]
CEENINE calls [$9.50 USD]
Villain shows 4♠, K♠
CEENINE shows J, A
CEENINE wins $45.50 USD from main pot


Generally, after I barrel the turn, villain isn't likely feeling very good about a hand like Tx or 88. Thus when he bets, I think those aren't in his range anymore. The 3 and Q are both pretty blank for all draws on the flop as well, and I think villain likely folds 77-99 & 6x to the turn barrel. So that leaves his betting range on the river to floated queens and missed draws. I might be giving him too much credit for a sane though process, but that combined with the price is why I made the call.
 
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