$50 NLHE 6-max: 3rd pair against suspected floater

$50 NL HE 6-max: 3rd pair against suspected floater

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 15/6/2

In second orbit on the table and no history w Villain, he called when I opened AQo utg, called flop and turn bets on QdTd7h3h board, and shoved when I checked a Jh river, I folded to the shove. This hand occurs 50 hands later.

He's chatty, whining about having the best hand pf and getting beat on the flop.

Thoughts on flop cbet size (smaller than my normal), turn c/c, and river?

poker stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $50.00
BB: $31.00
Hero (UTG): $50.75
CO: $63.90
BTN: $75.30

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 8:heart: 8:club:
Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) T:heart: 7:diamond: 9:club: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.90, CO calls $3.90, BB folds

Turn: ($14.05) T:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($24.05) 2:club: (2 players)
Hero ???

I would c/f, maybe call something up to $10 on the river...is he really turning 66 or A high into a bluff on the river? Maybe a blocking bet of $10 if you think he can fold 9x.

Looks to me like either a slowplay or pair of 9s/7s. I feel he would reraise preflop with 99+ so that's out of his range. I could see 77, a few 10/x combinations. But I think with a 10 he tries to raise big on the flop, get you to fold a draw or maybe even an overpair. I really doubt a 9, unless it's 89. I wouldn't be surprised if he has 87 or similar here. So I'd check/call

check raise the turn? The turn bet is pretty tiny and if you think hes floating you there thats a great card to check raise on. You're folding everything except T's- a fullhouse shoves and you can let it go- so if your draw hits the river you can probably stack him.
Outside of the C-bet maybe a little small, but the river just kind of sucks. His range is pretty ambiguous I hate to c/c the turn the c/f the river when a blank hits. So I guess c/f on the river....? Pretty tough.

Ubercroz said:

thats a great card to check raise on. You're folding everything except T's

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That was kinda my dilemma in a nutshell - I don't want to fold out his bluffs, I don't think, but not sure - enough non-made hands have equity here that maybe the c/r would be a better play?

I think he has a ton of non-made hands here, once I check the turn he should bet his entire range I think, given board texture. And like you say, his turn bet is absurdly small, only makes sense for a monster or a bluff?

Or am I just being greedy stupid...

slycbnew said:

That was kinda my dilemma in a nutshell - I don't want to fold out his bluffs, I don't think, but not sure - enough non-made hands have equity here that maybe the c/r would be a better play?

I think he has a ton of non-made hands here, once I check the turn he should bet his entire range I think, given board texture. And like you say, his turn bet is absurdly small, only makes sense for a monster or a bluff?

Or am I just being greedy stupid...

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I think that it is essentially a bluff or a monster, but if you call the turn you cant really not call on the river with a blank, so you can think of it as a money saving move to check raise.
If he lets you get to the river for free then no problem, however if he bets the turn you can raise and find out what exactly he's got- its a semi-bluff information bet.
I dont imagine anything worse is ever calling that check-raise but there are certainly better hands that may fold there- over pairs and... I have no idea what else he has there anything with a 9 other than 99 would be strange.
I think you would certainly fold to an overshove and thats fine since your draw was dead to a fullhouse and not likely to make a straight anyway.