[50 NL FR] btm 2 pair on coord board, 5 ways

Tygran

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SB is terrible...30/5/10 however there are 3 left to act and could already be drawing near dead.. (i'm calling pre because of the odds and the fact the table is very spewy)

Just thought I'd get some thoughts on it..what do we do?


Stacks:
UTG+1 with $50.00
MP1 with $92.70
MP2 with $47.50
CO with $38.60
BTN with $42.60
SB with $24.65
BB with $104.45
UTG with $135.50



hand.pl

Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:6♥ 7♥
Sklansky group 5
Preflop:
2 players fold.
MP1 calls [$0.50]
1 players fold.
CO calls [$0.50]
BTN raises $1 to $1.50
SB calls [$1.25]
Hero calls [$1]
MP1 calls [$1]
CO calls [$1]
Total folds this street: 3
Potsize: $7.5
Flop:
6♦ 8♠ 7♠
SB bets [$6.50]
 
Richyl2008

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Really gross spot, I think you have to put in a raise to isolate the sb though. If you get jammed on by one of the 40bb+ stacks, I guess you'll just have to deal with that as/if it comes up. I can definately see folding to the deep stack since your kind of at the bottom end of hands your stacking with.
 
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Definitely need to raise to isolate. Will be another decision to make if a deep stack reraises. Gotta try to isolate the short stack now that you are in there. Decent chance small has a pair + straight draw or perhaps a set given his call preflop, but no reraise.
 
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Have to raise here and if deeper stack shoves then you'd probably have to concede pot. Against SB you are probably good but bottom 2pr is treacherous in multiway. If raise doesnt isolate sb or win you pot then you really need to fill up to have any confidence.
 
BelgoSuisse

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I actually prefer calling here. By raising we're only making sure that the only hands that can call are made straights. By calling we're allowing all kinds of draws to come over the top (and we do call a shove here, imo).
 
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What about flopped sets ? Are we really calling a shove from a bigstack ?
 
BelgoSuisse

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What about flopped sets ? Are we really calling a shove from a bigstack ?

Only 5 combos of flopped sets. That is a minuscule amount compared to combos of flopped straights (32) and amount of draws (harder to count, lots probably) and villains doing funny things with TP.

if we flat call here, we can't call a shove from bigstack unless he's the super aggressive type. if we raise and he shoves, we have a harder decision as pot odds will get very tempting.
 
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