This is a discussion on $5 PLO 6-max: Should I shove this river? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; I am very, very new to PLO. I only have about 7k hands under my belt. I'm stilll getting the hang of it. That said,
I am very, very new to PLO. I only have about 7k hands under my belt. I'm stilll getting the hang of it. That said, I know QQxx84ss is not a quality hand. I call because I can't help myself, and I am on the button and believe that it might help me on my uphill climb when playing with sub-par values.
I considered betting here, after both other players showed some weakness. The board isn't exceptionally scary, and it could be hard for them to call with a naked club draw. But, I don't have much to fall back on if I get called. And, I have been attacking a lot of pots when they're checked to me on the button. I checked behind, to see if they still showed no interest on the turn. I won't be able to check it back again on a blank turn, if they both check.
Alright, this isn't a blank turn. I hit my set, and I pick up a weak heart draw (just in case I am up against KK). UTG leads out for a pot-sized bet. This card could have helped him, or he could have been hoping that I would bet the flop. UTG+2 calls, and I pot. With two flush draws out and the possible straight wraps, I'm charging full price to see the river. I don't mind getting called here, but it wouldn't have been bad to pick up this pot anyway.
River Pot $8.32
* UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero ???
UTG has $1.77, UTG+2 has me covered, I have $6.38 left (~75% pot shove). Both flush draws missed, but the straights hit. Again, they check to me. Again, I worry that they are setting me up because I have a reputation at this table of firing repeatedly. Of course, they could both just be checking because they missed. I may be over-thinking their thought process.
Anyway, I am leaning towards checking this back here. I have strong showdown potential, and I can't really put either of the other two on worse hands that call if I shove. I feel like I am only getting called when I am beat, and everything worse folds anyway. About the only hand that I lose to that *might* fold would be J-9-x-x, and there's a good chance that hand might call to keep me honest.
15th June 2016, 5:48 AM
1) You can set mine with queens on the button. Big sets make the nuts pretty often.
2) Shoving this river 3-way looks super strong. UTG+2 is almost certainly drawing, while UTG is probably a huge fish. I kinda want to bet $1.77 and fold to a shove from UTG+2. I'm not in love with it though, and checking back isn't terrible.
Caveat: PLO is my worst game in the 8 game rotation. I'm probably better at Badugi and 2-7NL as well, so it's pretty much the worst game I could be advising you on. Course, I've also played 10K+ hands of 8 game above $1/$2, so I'm probably ahead of most people on this forum.
15th June 2016, 11:43 AM
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Texas Holdem
I'd go for a thin value-bet for max 3$, folding to a shove by UTG+2, naturally.
I wouldn't oppose just checking this back, though.
15th June 2016, 3:14 PM
Online Poker at: ACR
I think my biggest problem is constantly worrying about being check-raised by the nuts. It causes me to hesitate. In fairness, I don't get check-raised all that much. I probably shouldn't worry about it, at least not if I am going to play hands that benefit from picking up some pots when nobody hits much of anything.
I definitely suffer from monsters-under-the-bed syndrome with PLO. I eventually got over that with NLHE, mostly because I got better at knowing what ranges people would be playing/betting and recognizing how small the portion of those ranges made the super-nuts.
18th June 2016, 6:16 AM
AJ shoves river a lot, and you betting here looks super strong. 1/3 psb bet > check > shove. Pf is ok in position
19th June 2016, 6:56 AM
Online Poker at: ACR
re: Poker & $5 PLO 6-max: Should I shove this river?
I ended up checking behind. My three ladies were good enough to win.
UTG: (on turn: flush draw, pair, OESD)
On flop, had underpair.... would probably have folded
UTG+2: (on turn: nut flush draw, pair, gut-shot)
On flop, gutshot and junk pair... probably would have folded
I made more by not betting the flop, but it gives you an idea of why a free card can be so dangerous. This turn card appeared to help all of us. By my mental calculations, I was still 64% on the turn, mostly because we had nearly all the hearts in our respective hands.
21st June 2016, 10:03 AM
yeah looks like a good spot to bet flop. They both played well, except utg+2 call pf